Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 19 May 2015, at 10:43, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: >>> ...The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in my opinion, >>> and often mix best practices with p

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Mark Struberg
> Lots of rules, Americans in the background... I don’t see that it works. Actually Apache folks are pretty much spread around the world. There are a lot of us in Austria, Germany, France, Spain, Italia, Poland, etc > All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all > the

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > > > If someone wants to write a "12 steps to becoming an Apache top-level > > project" that might become the single-page Incubator website ;-) > > Isn't it 1 step nowaday

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: >>> ...The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in my opinion, >>> and often mix best practices with

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> ...The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in my opinion, >> and often mix best practices with policy so I can understand that >> those can give such an impression. >

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Stefan Reich > wrote: >> ...All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all >> the rules?.. > > Out of curiosity, where did you find so many rules? > > The http

RE: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1000 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Bertrand Delacretaz<mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org> Sent: ‎5/‎19/‎2015 5:18 AM To: Incubator General<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated. Hi Stefan,

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Stefan, On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Stefan Reich wrote: > ...All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all > the rules?.. Out of curiosity, where did you find so many rules? The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in my opinion, and often mix best

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-18 Thread Ted Dunning
Stefan, Nothing says that Apache is the right place for all projects. It definitely isn't. Apache isn't even the right place for all developers. It may not suit you. In my own work, I contribute to some projects which are small and which aren't important enough to have a large community. I con

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-18 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 18.05.2015 20:35, schrieb Stefan Reich: Lots of rules, Americans in the background... I don't see that it works. Why don't we spend our time just PRODUCING SOMETHING? All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all the rules? I can give you my take: Contributors wi

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-18 Thread toki
On 18/05/2015 18:35, Stefan Reich wrote: > All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all the > rules? Risk Avoidance. The rules are designed to protect both the programmers, and the projects. They define/describe what is expected of each party, their rights, and thei

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-18 Thread Ryan Blue
On 05/18/2015 11:35 AM, Stefan Reich wrote: Lots of rules, Americans in the background... I don't see that it works. Why don't we spend our time just PRODUCING SOMETHING? All you'd have to do is connect programmers to projects. Simple. Why all the rules? Cheers Stefan Hi Stefan, In my expe