Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-15 Thread Brian Fox
> > > What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there > are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? My thoughts exactly. > > I mean, there are probably better (coding) and harder (releasing, > graduating) things to do than getting stuck about the name. > Why don't you (as a pod

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-14 Thread Santiago Gala
El mié, 13-05-2009 a las 00:33 +0200, Emmanuel Lecharny escribió: > Bernd Fondermann wrote: > >> JSecurity was deemed as a potential naming conflict risk (much in the same > >> way Ki is now), so we dropped it, and finally came to a vote to change the > >> name to Ki. But this resolution took over

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > ...if the Incubator says "the Ki podling > must change its name", then fine, we'll be happy to do so, but most of us > didn't want to spend the effort worrying about it unless necessary If that can help, I'm happy to start a vote here s

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Bernd Fondermann wrote: JSecurity was deemed as a potential naming conflict risk (much in the same way Ki is now), so we dropped it, and finally came to a vote to change the name to Ki. But this resolution took over 4 or 5 months to finally come to a favorable vote, so we didn't want to go throu

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > How do you check to ensure that the name is actually usable?  We did a lot > of due diligence on Ki, checked USPTO searches for patents/trademarks on Ki > and found not a single result, and performed lots of google searching and > still we'r

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 22:58, Les Hazlewood wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Bernd Fondermann < > bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there >> are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? >> I mean, there are probably bet

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
How do you check to ensure that the name is actually usable? We did a lot of due diligence on Ki, checked USPTO searches for patents/trademarks on Ki and found not a single result, and performed lots of google searching and still we're in the current predicament. How does one ever rest assured th

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > But this resolution took over 4 or 5 months to finally come to > a favorable vote, so we didn't want to go through that painful process all > over again, Suggestion; Allow people to submit suggestions for 1 week, then vote for 72 hours on t

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Bernd Fondermann < bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com> wrote: What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there > are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? > I mean, there are probably better (coding) and harder (releasing, > graduating) things to do

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > The main point is that you and I disagree on whether FixFlyer Ki and Apache > Ki are in the same domain. > > I have neither broad nor deep experience with securities trading systems, > but I do know what financial securities are. And I cla

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 21:46, Craig L Russell wrote: > > On May 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >> >> On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >>> On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On May 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: ...I'd like so

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow > me to > let this go other than "nope, it's not the same". Otherwise, I feel > tha

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would al

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than "nope, it's not the sam

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than "nope, it's not the same". Otherwise, I feel that I need to bring up a vot

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than "nope, it's not the same". Otherwise, I feel that I need to bring up a vote to put the issue to bed once an

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to > let this go other than "nope, it's not the same".  Otherwise, I feel that I > need to bring up a vote to put the issue to bed once and for all The only thi