Tomcat's servlet code in Felix (WAS: Re: Podling Release Requirement)

2006-09-26 Thread Richard S. Hall
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: It also seems that Felix has forked Tomcat's servlet code - which is okay: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/felix/trunk/javax.servlet/src/main/java/javax/servlet/GenericServlet.java However, the copyright years have been altered from the original file - re

Re: Tomcat's servlet code in Felix (WAS: Re: Podling Release Requirement)

2006-09-26 Thread Upayavira
Richard S. Hall wrote: > >> Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >> >>> It also seems that Felix has forked Tomcat's servlet code - which is >>> okay: >>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/felix/trunk/javax.servlet/src/main/java/javax/servlet/GenericServlet.java >>> >>> >>> However, the copyrigh

[REVOKED] Felix Gradutation Vote (was Re: Podling Release Requirement)

2006-09-18 Thread Upayavira
Based upon the below feedback from Justin, the Felix PPMC have agreed that there is additional work to be done on Felix before the project is ready for graduation, including making a release so as to clarify issues that the release process throws up. On that basis, I revoke the graduation vote for

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-18 Thread Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 9/13/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So how does Felix proceed now? Accept that the rules have just changed >> on it, after spending some months under the view that a release _wasn't_ >> necessary to graduation, and go back and do something it would have do

Re: Re: Podling Release Requirement

2006-09-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/15/06, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday September 13 2006 3:22 pm, Leo Simons wrote: > You know my incubator mantra (well maybe not), "Simpler rules, more > clarity". > > For example, we instate a rule > > "Podlings should do a release while in incubation that satisfies

Re: Podling Release Requirement

2006-09-15 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Wednesday September 13 2006 3:22 pm, Leo Simons wrote: > You know my incubator mantra (well maybe not), "Simpler rules, more > clarity". > > For example, we instate a rule > > "Podlings should do a release while in incubation that satisfies all the >generic ASF release policy guidelines an

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-14 Thread Alex Karasulu
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases policy. doing this is much easier and quicker than creating a proper relea

[howto] felix fast forward (was: Re: Podling Release Requirement)

2006-09-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 04:00:37AM +0100, Upayavira wrote: > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project > >> that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases >

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-14 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/13/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So how does Felix proceed now? Accept that the rules have just changed on it, after spending some months under the view that a release _wasn't_ necessary to graduation, and go back and do something it would have done months ago had it not been told

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project >> that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases >> policy. doing this is much easier and quicker than creating a prop

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/13/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: personally speaking, i would not support the gradudation any project that has not demonstrated that they understand the apache releases policy. doing this is much easier and quicker than creating a proper release. just nominate a releas

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > since we started checking releases in detail, it's become clear that > most projects struggle to create a compliant release at the first > attempt. nearly every first attempt c

Re: Podling Release Requirement

2006-09-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:05:08PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > So the real question, in my view, is whether or not they demonstrate an > awareness that there ARE issues, and that they may CHANGE, and are being > RESPONSIBLE about making sure that what they do is in compliance with ASF > policy

RE: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > IMO the question is not about performing a release (which is high > ceremony) but about knowing how to perform a release that complies > with ASF policy. And, as I noted in my Felix-specific reply, over the past few years, we have changed licensing, copyright notic

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 9/13/06, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: > On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/13/06, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: > On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. >> And >> > (hopefully) with Upayv

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Alex Karasulu
J Aaron Farr wrote: On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. And > (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried that the > PMC wi