Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Alan, Thanks. I’ll assist when the time comes. Regards, Dave > On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > > I've reverted the change for now to avoid breaking any builds. Once we've > either sorted out how to mark these as graduating or Phoenix has finished > it's work and we have a l

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Alan Gates
I've reverted the change for now to avoid breaking any builds. Once we've either sorted out how to mark these as graduating or Phoenix has finished it's work and we have a link to resolve to, then I'll redo this. Alan. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:26 PM Alan Gates wrote: > Sorry, I don't mean I wo

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Alan Gates
Sorry, I don't mean I won't fix it, I'm just not sure how to fix it at this point. Alan. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:21 PM Alan Gates wrote: > I found the instructions for that here: > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/transferring.html > I didn't put in the resolution link yet because there's n

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Alan Gates
I found the instructions for that here: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/transferring.html I didn't put in the resolution link yet because there's no such link yet. Alan. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 1:44 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Alan, > > The podlings.xml change is not really correct. It’s not

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Alan, The podlings.xml change is not really correct. It’s not documented but instead of you need to have a something like this for each: https://phoenix.apache.org/omid/“/> This creates the a link on the table on https://incubator.apache.org/projects Also, there is no “graduating” status.

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-08 Thread Alan Gates
I've updated the status of Omid and Tephra to 'graduating' in podlings.xml. I've also updated the projects/${podling}.xml for each of them with info on the SGAs (which hadn't been put there) and on their status as graduating into Phoenix. I'll let the Phoenix PMC deal with github, JIRA, mailing l

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I don't think so. I'll wait the 72 hours for the comment period to end > (started this morning) and then add a note to the report that Omid and > Tephra are graduating into Phoenix, unless Justin prefers something else. That's fine I’ve already note this in the report. Thanks, Justin ---

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-05 Thread Alan Gates
I don't think so. I'll wait the 72 hours for the comment period to end (started this morning) and then add a note to the report that Omid and Tephra are graduating into Phoenix, unless Justin prefers something else. Alan. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:14 PM Andreas Neumann wrote: > Should Tephra st

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-05 Thread Andreas Neumann
Should Tephra still file a podling report this month? -Andreas On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:00 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > For the changes to podlings.xml one example of a graduation to a > subproject is DistributedLog. > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Alan

Re: Omid and Tephra graduating into Phoenix

2019-11-05 Thread Dave Fisher
For the changes to podlings.xml one example of a graduation to a subproject is DistributedLog. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > > Omid[1] and Tephra[2] have voted to join the Phoenix community as > sub-projects. Phoenix has voted to accept

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Matt Sicker
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/grants/caskdata-tephra On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 15:16, Alan Gates wrote: > > Regarding SGAs, here's the JIRA for Omid: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OMID-2 > According to > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/grants.txt C

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Gates
Regarding SGAs, here's the JIRA for Omid: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OMID-2 According to https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/grants.txt Cask (original creators of Tephra) submitted a SGA for it and it's one file, but I don't know where the referenced file is kept. A

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Alan Gates
Bertand, thanks for bringing this up. I'll chase those down. Alan. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:46 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: > > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git > > re

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: > ...My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git > repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write > access... >From the Incubator's point of view, I think an additional step is to confirm and doc

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Josh Elser
I like the idea of opt-in for committership for the current podling membership (without any "time to respond" limitation). I don't foresee any concerns doing that, but will shout if that becomes an issue. On 10/28/19 3:09 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, According to [4] the first step of gradua

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-30 Thread Josh Elser
(w/ VP Phoenix hat) My current expectation is that we'd just rename the existing Git repositories and change the LDAP group which are used to determine write access. In other words, your Git repos will exist just as they do now, but only at different coordinates. On 10/25/19 12:27 AM, Ohad S

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-29 Thread Alan Gates
Makes sense. I've replied to the discussion in the Phoenix community so we know what terms Tephra and Omid are voting on. As soon as I hear from them I'll start votes in both communities. Alan. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:47 PM Andreas Neumann wrote: > I agree with Justin, I think we get - at l

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
I agree with Justin, I think we get - at least in the Tephra community - a quorum. -Andreas On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:09 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an > > existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podling

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-28 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > According to [4] the first step of graduating into a sub-project of an > existing TLP is a vote by the podling. Given that both podlings have very > low activity I am not sure we will get the necessary votes to make this > happen. I would try and see what happens - the mentors have binding

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-28 Thread Alan Gates
There appears to be consensus on this thread, as well as in the Phoenix community[1] that it makes sense for Phoenix to adopt both Omid and Tephra. My mails to the Tephra and Omid communities[2][3] have gone unanswered, so I assume silence implies consent. According to [4] the first step of gradu

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-25 Thread Ohad Shacham
+1, Thanks Alan. Just wanted to verify that adopt means Omid and Tephra will sit in the same repo as Phoenix but will be able to checkout separately as well. I assume this is Phoenix folks decision. I know that in Yahoo Omid is used internally. On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:36 AM Gary Helmling wrote:

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Gary Helmling
+1 this seems like the best option. On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:29 PM Andrew Purtell wrote: > +1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good > technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use > of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Andrew Purtell
+1 this would be a good outcome. Both Tephra and OMID are good technologies, with respective pros and cons, and Phoenix can make good use of both of them, should they choose to accept ownership of the code. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM Alan Gates wrote: > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephr

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Francisco Perez-Sorrosal
On 2019/10/23 18:16:31, Alan Gates wrote: > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be > candidates for retirement. > > The situation here is somew

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > So before we push them into retirement I believe we should involve the > Phoenix PMC and see if they want to adopt either or both of these, with the > knowledge that they will likely be getting minimal contributions from > current members of those projects going forward. If others are ok wi

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-24 Thread Andreas Neumann
+1 It seems to be the best option. -Andreas On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Furkan KAMACI wrote: > Hi, > > +1 > > Kind Regards, > Furkan KAMACI > > 24 Eki 2019 Per, saat 07:11 tarihinde Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > j...@nanthrax.net> > şunu yazdı: > > > +1, good idea. > > > > Regards > > JB > > > >

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Hi, +1 Kind Regards, Furkan KAMACI 24 Eki 2019 Per, saat 07:11 tarihinde Jean-Baptiste Onofré şunu yazdı: > +1, good idea. > > Regards > JB > > On 23/10/2019 20:16, Alan Gates wrote: > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, > > > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month b

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1, good idea. Regards JB On 23/10/2019 20:16, Alan Gates wrote: Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be candidates for retirement. The situation here

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread James Taylor
+1. That seems like the best course of action IMHO. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:54 PM Flavio Junqueira wrote: > +1 > > -Flavio > > > On 23 Oct 2019, at 21:08, Terence Yim wrote: > > > > +1 on this > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher wrote: > > > >> +1. That’s a good idea. > >> > >

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread Flavio Junqueira
+1 -Flavio > On 23 Oct 2019, at 21:08, Terence Yim wrote: > > +1 on this > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher wrote: > >> +1. That’s a good idea. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates wrote: >>> >>> Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, >>>

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread Terence Yim
+1 on this On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:36 Dave Fisher wrote: > +1. That’s a good idea. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > > > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, > > > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very >

Re: Omid and Tephra

2019-10-23 Thread Dave Fisher
+1. That’s a good idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > > Justin and mentors of Omid and Tephra, > > As Justin noted in his emails to these podlings this month both are very > low activity, struggling to even file their reports, and appear to be > candi