Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 too /Olivier 2011/5/3 Lukasz Lenart : > +1 for JIRA space and issues@commons.a.o > > > Kind regards > -- > Łukasz > + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > Warszawa JUG conference - Confitura http://confitura.pl/ > > - >

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Lukasz Lenart
+1 for JIRA space and issues@commons.a.o Kind regards -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ Warszawa JUG conference - Confitura http://confitura.pl/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Committer votes happen on the PMC list. There won't be an OGNL PMC - so I don't see this as losing a power over their own affairs. It's not a power they begin with. When OGNL is deemed ready by the Incubator, (ie: Incubator PMC has voted to graduate it), the Commons PMC would vote to accept the co

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread sebb
wrote: >>>>> just for the record (for the new contributors). As long as your >>>>> incubating the following rules apply: >>>>> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html >>>>> >>>>> At the time you g

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
uberg wrote: >>>> just for the record (for the new contributors). As long as your incubating >>>> the following rules apply: >>>> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html >>>> >>>> At the time you grad

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
your incubating >>> the following rules apply: >>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html >>> >>> At the time you graduate you need to check who really was active and >>> 'cleanup' the PPMC. So not every person which was o

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-02 Thread Simone Tripodi
who really was active and >> 'cleanup' the PPMC. So not every person which was on the PPMC automatically >> makes it to the final PMC anyway ... >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >>>

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-02 Thread Simone Tripodi
So not every person which was on the PPMC automatically > makes it to the final PMC anyway ... > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> From: Olivier Lamy >> Subject: Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions >> To: general@incubator.

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Struberg
omatically makes it to the final PMC anyway ... LieGrue, strub --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Olivier Lamy wrote: > From: Olivier Lamy > Subject: Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 7:11 AM > +1 > > > > 2011/5/2 Chr

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-02 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 2011/5/2 Christian Grobmeier : >> My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes will >> happen when OGNL graduates. >> >> After graduation, how would one of the current contributors propose a >> new committer if they are not themselves on the Commons PMC? > > Proposal: > > - I

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Christian!!! it makes a lot of sense, IMHO, it should maintain the stability of both ecosystems! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes w

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes will > happen when OGNL graduates. > > After graduation, how would one of the current contributors propose a > new committer if they are not themselves on the Commons PMC? Proposal: - If you are a Commons PMC Member, you are an OGNL

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-01 Thread Upayavira
Hi Simone, My issue (for the commons PMC I guess) is how committer votes will happen when OGNL graduates. After graduation, how would one of the current contributors propose a new committer if they are not themselves on the Commons PMC? Upayavira On Sun, 01 May 2011 19:56 +0200, "Simone Tripodi

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Upayavira!!! I agree that commons folks can have rw rights, so people are already used to co-work in the 'commons way'. Moreover, I agreed on joining - dev@commons.a.o - users@commons.a.o - issues@commons.a.o - create the private ML where commons PMCs can join. Does it make sense? Simo http:/

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-05-01 Thread Upayavira
use commons-user: +1 put SVN in 'incubator' space: +1 grant "commons rw: +1 (assuming current OGNL committers agree) As to a private list, I think the benefit would be the opportunity for the OGNL committers to learn how such management happens. Where, for example, would committer votes happen? Th

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-04-29 Thread Henri Yandell
Agreed, no need to use the svn location from Commons; though I ask to allow @commons rw access. The committer of the podling would not automatically become PMC members, so I don't think there is a need to setup a private list (or even to consider it a PPMC). Hen On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:05 PM,

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-04-29 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/4/29 Christian Grobmeier > For SVN I don't see a benefit. The repos can be moved with less effort > once component is graduated. I would like to avoid to get something > into the sandbox which is not cleared from legal perspective. What, if > OGNL fails in the incubator and we just forget to

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-04-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> we could share MLs and also SVN (Sandbox > would be nice, not?) MLs are fine, b/c one would need to change address later, and searching for pre-graduation threads is more easily. For SVN I don't see a benefit. The repos can be moved with less effort once component is graduated. I would like to

Re: OGNL Infrastructure questions

2011-04-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Henri! thanks for following up the conversation! I agree that joining the existing Commons infra would simplify the process to graduate OGNL as a proper Commons component, we could share MLs and also SVN (Sandbox would be nice, not?) What Incubator PMCs think about it? Simo http://people.apache