Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-28 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 28, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:51 AM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: JIRA and communities >&

RE: JIRA and communities

2012-05-28 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
>-Original Message- >From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:51 AM >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Re: JIRA and communities > >So, what message here should the incubator send a podling, or the >foundation se

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-26 Thread Benson Margulies
Marvin, I am at your disposal to collaborate on something here; note my reply at infrastructure@. It seems to me that this thread would largely go better over there, now that the caveat that 'a podling run entirely on JIRA may have community problems' has been delivered. --benson ---

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > So, what message here should the incubator send a podling, or the > foundation send a TLP? I really don't mean this as a rhetorical > question at all, I'm honestly puzzled. There are a couple of technical mitigations which can help, such

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-26 Thread Benson Margulies
So, what message here should the incubator send a podling, or the foundation send a TLP? I really don't mean this as a rhetorical question at all, I'm honestly puzzled. In the case of Lucene, I've been hanging out for months, and I feel perfectly confident that it's a healthy community by any found

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Arun C Murthy
Agreed about the Review tool... I've had similar problems when it's used in Hadoop (however, thankfully, it's usage is fairly miniscule.) Arun On May 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve Loughran >> wrote: >>> On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view >>

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I don't claim that JIRA helps, but I also don't accept the proposition > that JIRA hurts. I claim it does both. > I think that we should focus on the community, not the tools. The > JIRA-oriented projects I follow have JIRA set to send a

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-25 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 25, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Steve Loughran > wrote: >> On 24 May 2012 06:15, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >>> I've met other groups of people who like a JIRA centric view >>> of the world. I suspect that if they did a bunch of other go