Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-09 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Bill Dudney wrote: > Hi Noel and All, > > Are we good to go then? > > The DB PMC has accepted us and we've not heard anything about an > Incubator PMC vote so we'd like to get moving if possible. > > As I understand it our next step is to file all the JIRA issues with > the fine folks over in

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-09 Thread Bill Dudney
Hi Noel and All, Are we good to go then? The DB PMC has accepted us and we've not heard anything about an Incubator PMC vote so we'd like to get moving if possible. As I understand it our next step is to file all the JIRA issues with the fine folks over in the infra project. http://incub

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: * [still in the early stages] JPA implementation (JSR-220) Are you aware of the Open JPA proposal, also looking for incubation? Is this something where perhaps you might want to adopt theirs, since yours is still early? See: http://wi

RE: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
One of the things that you will really want to do during Incubation is to work with other, related, projects within the ASF. Both those that are in a similar space, and those that use similar projects, e.g., those using Hibernate. Whether or not Cayenne becomes a TLP, we want to establish good co

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-03-01 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'm +1 on this, and would be willing to sign up to Mentor it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Brian McCallister
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: Though it wasn't posted to the PMC list (I only saw it because of the announcement on the incubator list). Erg, could have sworn I CC'ed the pmc list once discussions heated up. My apologies! -Brian

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/1/06, Bill Dudney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we add your name to the proposal then as mentor :-) I'd like to, but judging from the incubator docs (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html), mentors need to be ASF, which I'm not. However, I could join as a

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Bill Dudney
Hi Tom, Can we add your name to the proposal then as mentor :-) Thanks again for the comments. TTFN, Bill Dudney MyFaces - myfaces.apache.org On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/1/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can't compare us with Torque, as I

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/1/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't compare us with Torque, as I am unfamiliar with it. From what I > > know we are closer to OJB and JDO rather than Torque (but I can be > > wrong on that). I don't see a conflict with either of the three. We > > just provide anot

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/28/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, this looks like a very worthwhile proposal, but I > > would consider that this may likely be best under > > db first, with movement to TLP sometime after that, > > at least at this stage. I am also curious about the > > comparison bet

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Jim, On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Thanks for the proposal. It's best to submit the proposal itself to the list, and provide a URL as backup, but that's no problem. Yeah, I overlooked this requirement. Leo screen-scraped the text from Wiki and sent it to this list alre

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
Andrus, Thanks for the proposal. It's best to submit the proposal itself to the list, and provide a URL as backup, but that's no problem. IMO, this looks like a very worthwhile proposal, but I would consider that this may likely be best under db first, with movement to TLP sometime after that, a

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Andrus Adamchik
This has got to be one of the more common questions over the last few months. Could you please help out here and submit some patches for the incubator website docs that document this so others can figure this out, too? Totally. We just need to go through the process ourselves and get first-han

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Ah, I see Leo did... Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: please post the actual proposal to the list, not just a URL thanks Andrus Adamchik wrote: Hi folks, We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here: http://obj

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
please post the actual proposal to the list, not just a URL thanks Andrus Adamchik wrote: Hi folks, We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here: http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:04:15PM +0300, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to > join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here: > > http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal > > Brian McCallister voluntee

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-26 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:04:15PM +0300, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to > join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be viewed here: > > http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/CAY/ASF+Proposal Pasted below: ---

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Trustin Lee
Hi Thomas! It has been a long time since we met at ApacheCon US 2005. :) On 2/26/06, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/25/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I > > suggested they aim for a top leve

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Also, it's always possible to go from being a DB subproject to its own TLP later... Yoav On 2/25/06, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/25/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I > > suggested they aim f

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 2/25/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I > suggested they aim for a top level project status for a few reasons: > > * Cayenne already has an mature ASF-style structure and community > (reportedly =) > * There are ~

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Brian McCallister
Andrus and Bill initially opened discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suggested they aim for a top level project status for a few reasons: * Cayenne already has an mature ASF-style structure and community (reportedly =) * There are ~subprojects (the gui tool, etc) in Cayenne, and sub-sub- proje

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
We have the vibrant community part covered already, so now we are asking for incubation :-) Andrus On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: 2006/2/25, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either Incubator PMC or the ASF Board. Havi

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Jacek Laskowski
2006/2/25, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I understand that for TLP a sponsor must be either > Incubator PMC or the ASF Board. Having read the threads about incubating projects lately, I think you shouldn't bother with it anymore. You just ask for incubation (sponsors, legal stuff, etc.),

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Yoav, We've actually looked at the DB option (and are still open to it as a second choice). The reasoning behind the TLP proposal is that Cayenne has quite some history as an open source project and we have a number of subprojects that may not fit into the DB community scope as there i

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, db.apache.org might be a better place for Cayenne than a TLP, no? It's similar to OJB... Yoav On 2/25/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > We at Cayenne project (http://objectstyle.org/cayenne) would like to > join Apache. We wrote a proposal draft that can be vie