Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-13 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Upayavira, thanks, sure, going to do it NOW! :) Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Upayavira wrote: > You've certainly answered my questions. I'd suggest you also post this > info to legal-discuss to close off the thread the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-13 Thread Upayavira
You've certainly answered my questions. I'd suggest you also post this info to legal-discuss to close off the thread there, for historical reasons at least! Upayavira On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:01 +0200, "Simone Tripodi" wrote: > Hi again guys, > just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Ma

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Simone, agree, the proposal is ready to be submitted. Regards JB On 04/13/2011 04:01 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi again guys, just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in the far 1998. Then, it was move

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-13 Thread Ioannis Canellos
+1 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi again guys, > just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew > Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in > the far 1998. > Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-13 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi again guys, just to follow-up the discussion, OGNL is owned by Marc Andrew Davidson, that's the original author, that started OGNL development in the far 1998. Then, it was moved to OpenSimphony only in the 2004 - later moved to its own domain. I'd say that nobody can claim OGNL trademark unless

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Phil Steitz
On 4/8/11 7:06 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when it > voted to sponsor this project. If that is necessary I'm sure they will let > the project know. We voted to sponsor OGNL. Martin is right that our policy is to avoid the cute

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Ralph Goers
I don't recall the Commons PMC saying the project needs to be renamed when it voted to sponsor this project. If that is necessary I'm sure they will let the project know. Ralph On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Martin Cooper wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki > wrote: >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that > using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How about > calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any > strange meaning in so

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi!!! Also Lucene comes from sourceforge and kept its name :P Merci Olivier, I'm going to write that mail just now, thanks!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hello, > +1 to keep the name as long as we

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hello, +1 to keep the name as long as we have all clearly signed donation papers from the original authors. Maybe you could ask too on legal-discuss@a.o ? /Olivier 2011/4/8 Simone Tripodi : > Hi Mark, > as Jochen reported, this is the original project donated to the ASF, > under the signed Softw

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
I can recall a lot of projects moving to apache from source-forge (e.g. jenna, opennlp), codehaus (e.g. servicemix) and none of them had trademark related issues. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Mark, > as Jochen reported, this is the original project donated to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Mark, as Jochen reported, this is the original project donated to the ASF, under the signed Software Grant by Marc Andrew "Drew" Davidson, the original OGNL author. BTW I'll write as well to trademarks@a.o to clarify, thanks for suggesting :) The difference with EL is in the OGNL definition it

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > +1 for a rename. Using an established project name might create problems with > the trademark. Best you ping trademarks@a.o about it. I think, there is a misunderstandment. This is *the* OGNL project, we are talking about and not a followu

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Struberg
one Tripodi > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Friday, April 8, 2011, 9:13 AM > Due to a misunderstanding (my bad!!!) > I didn't add Jochen Wiedmann in > the Mentors list, I already added him in the Mentors List. > So now we

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
Due to a misunderstanding (my bad!!!) I didn't add Jochen Wiedmann in the Mentors list, I already added him in the Mentors List. So now we're looking for at least one more mentor that will help up!!! Volunteers are welcome :) Many thanks in advance Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ htt

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Jeremias Maerki
The reference to "Ogre" did cross my mind. But the emphasis is on the "O", not the "a". ;-) On 08.04.2011 10:00:10 Antonio Petrelli wrote: > 2011/4/8 Jeremias Maerki > > > How about > > calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? > > > Are you serious? Ogr(e)anal? :-D Jeremias Maerki -

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
>> > > I added Apache Tiles, that uses OGNL through an optional module. > > Antonio > Great, thanks!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Jeremias, thanks for your feedback!! Just to make tings clear, there's not OGNL specification, OGNL is the already existing project name, there are only OGNL guides. BTW let us know if you're interested on participating in the future, thanks in advance! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetrip

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/4/8 Ioannis Canellos > In the relationship with other Apache Projects section, project iBatis has > been retired. You could add however Apache Camel which is using ognl > expressions for routing/filtering etc. > I added Apache Tiles, that uses OGNL through an optional module. Antonio

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/4/8 Jeremias Maerki > How about > calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Are you serious? Ogr(e)anal? :-D

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I'm sorry that I can't help out but when reading this I thought that using the spec name as the project name is probably not ideal. How about calling it Apache (Commons) Ogranal? Hopefully, this doesn't have any strange meaning in some language. Just a thought. On 08.04.2011 09:26:43 Simone Tripod

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache OGNL

2011-04-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
Hi and good luck with your proposal. please find below my feedback to your proposal. In the relationship with other Apache Projects section, project iBatis has been retired. You could add however Apache Camel which is using ognl expressions for routing/filtering etc. I hope that helps! On Fri,