Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
No worries. I got few kids so I know how it can be hard and long to find the good name and have all agree on it :-) On 7 October 2013 22:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Thanks a lot Olivier > > > On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Si

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks a lot Olivier On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote: Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote. On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen wrote: +1 for Sirona On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-06 Thread Olivier Lamy
Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote. On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen wrote: > +1 for Sirona > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish wrote: > >> +1, sounds good >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 2,

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-06 Thread Tammo van Lessen
+1 for Sirona On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish wrote: > +1, sounds good > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. > > Any objections? > > > > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > Nechtan sounds cool al

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-04 Thread Ashish
+1, sounds good On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. > Any objections? > > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its > > translated with "The tremendousnes

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-03 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
software related product so far. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46 Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring +1 Regards JB On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-03 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
e related product so far. > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré > > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-03 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
> +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for > any software related product so far. > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré > >>

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
ms to not be used for any > software related product so far. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46 >> Su

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-02 Thread Mark Struberg
- > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring > > +1 > > Regards > JB > > On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> S

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-02 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
I like it! +1 JLouis 2013/10/2 Jean-Baptiste Onofré > +1 > > Regards > JB > > > On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. >> Any objections? >> >> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note,

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 Regards JB On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. Any objections? On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on t

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-01 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+1, sounds like the logo idea will be easy ;) Le 2 oct. 2013 01:01, "Olivier Lamy" a écrit : > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. > Any objections? > > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its > > translated

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-10-01 Thread Olivier Lamy
So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. Any objections? On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
It sounds good. Regards JB On 09/25/2013 01:17 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: So what about Baldr? BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP? WDYT? On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would like to throw in this document: http://www.apache.org/fo

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan stands for. But I like its sound. I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because mon

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
Why not try Celtic mythology I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to the association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I also see thor is be

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I also see thor is being used by infra: status.apache.org (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too). However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who is the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was able to return from Hel (sounds l

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: > Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr. Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd really appreciate it if we can k

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-25 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr. Tammo Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" : > So what about Baldr? > BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP? > WDYT? > > On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-24 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
I'd start with Baldr (if a vote passes) to avoid relocation Le 25 sept. 2013 01:18, "Olivier Lamy" a écrit : > So what about Baldr? > BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP? > WDYT? > > On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > I would like t

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-24 Thread Olivier Lamy
So what about Baldr? BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP? WDYT? On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I would like to throw in this document: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html > > We should make a few tests already before

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to throw in this document: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html We should make a few tests already before we start the process officially. here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already. - CoMon There is "Common Software", a company. We might ha

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-20 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to english so easier to propagate IMO. Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" a écrit : > I like the "Apache Leitstand" name. > > Regards > JB > > On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: > >> So if German is en vogu

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
I like the "Apache Leitstand" name. Regards JB On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1], which means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GU

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-20 Thread Tammo van Lessen
So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1], which means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an important piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly. Cheers, Tam

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-19 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+1 for Balder not baldur in french (add a a and that's weird ;) Le 20 sept. 2013 03:23, "Olivier Lamy" a écrit : > So It looks we have more interested folks. > But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the > project. > Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popu

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-19 Thread Ashish
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > So It looks we have more interested folks. > But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the > project. > Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic > god). So as a French guy this proposition loo

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-19 Thread Olivier Lamy
So It looks we have more interested folks. But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the project. Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-). More seriously, this name doesn't hurt

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" : > > Hi > > Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In > all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we > want and well use ;) Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive en

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
I saw both and in particular plain text or html (i was surprised too), the robot was not parsing anything Le 15 sept. 2013 18:03, "Christian Grobmeier" a écrit : > Am 15.09.13 15:56, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > > Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too > ;). > > t

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 15.09.13 15:56, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too ;). they surely prefer something like JSON instead of raw html? > But im not so extremist that i looked :p Good to hear :-) > Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, "Christian Grobmeier" a

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too ;). But im not so extremist that i looked :p Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, "Christian Grobmeier" a écrit : > Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > > Hi > > > > Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > Hi > > Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In > all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we > want and well use ;) Without JS in 2013? There is definitely a need to discuss this! :-)

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we want and well use ;) Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" a écrit : > Great proposal. > > You have already enough mentors, otherwise I w

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 13.09.13 02:10, schrieb Olivier Lamy: > Hi Folks, > Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache > Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people > won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as > website :-) ). > hehehe right! I would li

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Great proposal. You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one. Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: > The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar > (Olivier spoke about it first) Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> >>> +1 >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message - >>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau >>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>> Cc: >>>&g

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-15 Thread Tammo van Lessen
? > > On 14 September 2013 18:18, Mark Struberg wrote: > > I'm in. > > > > +1 > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > >> From: Romain Manni-Bucau > >> To: general@inc

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-14 Thread Mark Struberg
txs, fine for me. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - > From: Olivier Lamy > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" ; Mark > Struberg > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013, 15:00 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring > > Hi &

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-14 Thread Olivier Lamy
gt;> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29 >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring >> >> Hi >> >> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar >> (Olivier spoke about

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-14 Thread Mark Struberg
I'm in. +1 LieGrue, strub - Original Message - > From: Romain Manni-Bucau > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring > > Hi > > The gui is optional but a b

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar (Olivier spoke about it first) Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" a écrit : > Hi Romain, > > cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the > GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Hi Romain, cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persis

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Olivier Lamy
On 13 September 2013 15:51, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > it sounds really interested, and it's a feature that I would expect in > Kalumet. > > I'm really interested to join ! I just added you as a mentor. > > Regards > JB > > > On 09/13/2013 02:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> >> H

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi we use jmx too ATM. My opinion after some work is sharing counter/gauge is loosing energy for few gain but if licence is compatible why not... Le 13 sept. 2013 19:28, "Chris Geer" a écrit : > This seems to be similar to the Netflix Servo project [1]. They chose to > expose the data over JMX in

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Chris Geer
This seems to be similar to the Netflix Servo project [1]. They chose to expose the data over JMX instead of a web site but the collection seems like it has similar concepts. Maybe there is a possibility of providing value added services on top of it? Like aggregation, reporting Chris [1] htt

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences: 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges 3) we will handle aggregation and hopefully much more ;) Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project (tomee, jb

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope? Thanks, Tammo [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/ On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi Folks, > Below is a proposal for a new incubator proje

Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring

2013-09-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Olivier, it sounds really interested, and it's a feature that I would expect in Kalumet. I'm really interested to join ! Regards JB On 09/13/2013 02:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hi Folks, Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache Monitoring. (the name will certainly cha