Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 19 March 2006 20:46, Leo Simons wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 07:41:04AM +, James Strachan wrote: > > (i)  don't use the incubator code, but fork it elsewhere (say to > > codehaus) and make releases there if Geronimo needs bug fixes > > (ii) Geronimo use incubator release candidate

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 07:41:04AM +, James Strachan wrote: > BTW I CC'd the Geronimo PMC as this is an interesting dilema for the > Geronimo folks too I'm not so happy with crossposting between public/private lists (private lists should be unused if possible) so I dropped that again...thi

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials

2006-03-18 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, James Strachan wrote: BTW we are currently calling all the artifacts incubator-activemq-*, the jars are all called incubator-activemq*.jar, we include disclaimers in the distro highlighting the incubator status and also include these inside the manife

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
my 2 cents. (i) don't use the incubator code, but fork it elsewhere (say to codehaus) and make releases there if Geronimo needs bug fixes -1 (ii) Geronimo use incubator release candidate releases +1 (iii) ActiveMQ performs actual releases that Geronimo can depend on and use but put sufficient

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, James Strachan wrote: BTW we are currently calling all the artifacts incubator-activemq-*, the jars are all called incubator-activemq*.jar, we include disclaimers in the distro highlighting the incubator status and also include these inside the manifests of the jars. So it

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-17 Thread James Strachan
BTW I CC'd the Geronimo PMC as this is an interesting dilema for the Geronimo folks too On 3/17/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:10:50PM +, James Strachan wrote: > > On 3/16/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So we could include the in

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials

2006-03-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 18 March 2006 01:36, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > I am quite new at Apache, but from my understanding, the incubation > process as nothing to do with the quality of the releases the > incubated project produces. It has mainly to do with the ASF > endorsing the project (though I do not ha

Re: Non-final materials in final ASF materials

2006-03-17 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Leo Simons wrote: The policy is (supposed to be) a codification of that general rule. Using keywords such as "alpha", "beta", "milestone", "release candidate" and the like is another way that we tend to use to accomplish the same thing -- get people to test drive our stuff but only deploy in

Non-final materials in final ASF materials (was: Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix reports)

2006-03-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:10:50PM +, James Strachan wrote: > On 3/16/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we could include the incubating ActiveMQ code inside an actual production > Geronimo release - provided the ActiveMQ jars keep (their current name) of > incubator-activemq.