works hard to
> congratulate and welcome.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 27 November 2012 17:40
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
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; > -Original Message-
> > From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 27 November 2012 17:40
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ross Gardler
> &g
t; for new community members. The goal is
to
guide people through the learning process aroun
> -Original Message-
> From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 November 2012 17:40
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
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>Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012, 11:01
>Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
>
>Apologies for the cross post, but I am including press since Eric has some
>constructive observations here.
>
>On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Eric Johnson
br1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 November 2012 17:40
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>
> > Growing community is about "getting the message out there". There
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> I wonder if we can ask that incubation proposals include how they intend
> to get the message out there. What channels are relevant for the project?
> I guess what are their marketing plans.
>
> Eventually, we'd have a collection of old inc
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
> My thought here is that ComDev is a source of useful advice, not a
> group of people to do the work.
>
>
+1, not only ComDev, but actually IPMC as well, as it's actually the PMC
that has the most experience with regards podlings and what
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Growing community is about "getting the message out there". There has to
> be someone in the project who wants to do that. Some techniques are:
>
> - press
> - community events
> - mentoring (that is mentoring of potential new committers)
> -
catch-22.
>>>
>>> Personally I have no problem with a podling having low activity. A single
>>> developer doing their thing in the incubator is not going to hurt anyone.
>>> What I'm concerned about is a podling that is not doing any of the above
>>&g
Google Summer of Code is an excellent opportunity to attract fresh
blood to your project and it is a good practice for a podling to
participate.
GSoC students are potential committers, there will be a splash of
discussion on your @dev list, the podling will be promoted, etc. -
actually all techniq
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> ...growing communities is really, really, hard,
> and I don't know that anyone at Apache has a recipe. If anyone does,
> it might be the comdev committee...
I agree with this, the incubator is busy enough helping podlings
become top-level
rs.
I don't think it is the responsibility of ComDev to do this, although one could
argue ComDev should be documenting these techniques in ways useful to mentors.
I don't think it is the job of mentors (or the IPMC) to do this either. It is
entirely the PPMC responsibility. In my opini
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 27 November 2012 00:22
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
>>
>> Luciano,
>>
>> My five cents is this: growing commun
t;
> Ross
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 27 November 2012 00:22
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
>>
>> Luciano,
>>
>> My f
opinion.
Ross
> -Original Message-
> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 November 2012 00:22
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to grow podling communities
>
> Luciano,
>
> My five cents is this: growing commun
Luciano,
My five cents is this: growing communities is really, really, hard,
and I don't know that anyone at Apache has a recipe. If anyone does,
it might be the comdev committee. I'm not sure that this PMC can take
it on. We can barely muster the minimal supervision that the board
requires of us.
Actually, this has its own difficulty. Sponsorship can lead to
(inadvertent or intended) domination by the sponsored developers.
But I agree completely that helping volunteer communities grow is an
important issue.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> Growing communities w
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From: *Benson Margulies*
Date: Monday, November 26, 2012
Subject: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation
To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
For those voting -1, I'd like to see, on another thread, some
discussion about just how we handle podlings where there
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