On 9/24/2003 12:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are trying to get there you know.
If at any point you want to help, just let me know.
I wasn't trying to say that you weren't working on it, just trying to
point out that some people consider Releases important.
Ted
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Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 24/09/2003 04:58:20 PM:
> On 9/23/2003 3:51 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > FWIW
> >
> > my experience at jakarta has been that momentum is much more important
> > than Releases. in fact, some of the most talked about new java
products
> > here a
On 9/23/2003 3:51 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
FWIW
my experience at jakarta has been that momentum is much more important
than Releases. in fact, some of the most talked about new java products
here at apache (maven, jelly, geronimo) have never had a Release.
My experience talking to non-
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 07:54 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
See http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html for the httpd project's
guidelines. They use the term "release" the way that Jakarta projects
will
use the term "build", but the overall effect is the same. Se
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
this sounds to me like a very good plan. thank you!
+1 :-)
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Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> OK, based on everything I've read from this and a few of the
> other threads on this list, which I've just caught up to (I
> picked a bad weekend to attend a wedding that took me off email
> ;-), I am going to propose to the other XMLBeans folks that we
> do the following:
OK, based on everything I've read from this and a few of the
other threads on this list, which I've just caught up to (I
picked a bad weekend to attend a wedding that took me off email
;-), I am going to propose to the other XMLBeans folks that we
do the following:
1. Create a build of a cvs sna
Okay guys, I get the message. I'll ask XML beans to make a
"xmlbeans-is-not-part-of-the-ASF-1.0" release.
On 9/22/2003 10:09 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
i think the point is that a podling is *not* part of the
asf, and is therefore not entitled to distribute so
Jochen,
A project is accepted into the Incubator on the hopes that it WILL become an
ASF project. However, it still needs to meet certain critera (the exit
criteria). Those criteria should include having a healthy Community, which
helps to ensure its long term survival; and having all legal issu
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>
>> i think the point is that a podling is *not* part of the
>> asf, and is therefore not entitled to distribute something
>> with the asf's name on it. if the podling graduates, i don't
>> see any bar to whatever packages were built during incubation
>> being retitled as
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
i disagree. the lack of a release snapshot doesn't seem to
interfere with sourceforge projects attracting people, and
i don't see that it would be any different here.
The lack of release snapshots on sf.net is (IMO) the best indicator, that
the project isn't maintai
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>
> Thanks, understood. In that case, I'd hold my argument, that the incubated
> project requires the ability for Releases in order to attract external users
> and build a community.
i disagree. the lack of a release snapshot doesn't seem to
interfere with sourceforge pr
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
See http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html for the httpd project's
guidelines. They use the term "release" the way that Jakarta projects will
use the term "build", but the overall effect is the same. See
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi for a description of th
> > Capital R. A "Release" build is a specific notion within the ASF. Not
all
> > builds are created equal, and no one was talking about distribution from
CVS
> > only.
> Would you mind to explain me what the specific notion means?
See http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html for the httpd proj
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Capital R. A "Release" build is a specific notion within the ASF. Not all
builds are created equal, and no one was talking about distribution from CVS
only.
Would you mind to explain me what the specific notion means?
Regards,
Jochen
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Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing
> > incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release.
> I do not know what exactly you define as a "release". Is that more than a
> distribution?
Capital R. A "Rel
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing
incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release.
I do not know what exactly you define as a "release". Is that more than
a distribution?
An incubator project is expec
Re: Getting the distribution onto a download site somewhere ...)
Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>
> > I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing
> > incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release.
>
&
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing
incubator status should not be permitted to make a Release.
I do not know what exactly you define as a "release". Is that more than a
distribution?
An incubator project is expected to build a community.
Ted,
> if there is a version that has been finished / super tested, etc,
> it seems a little sily not to make it stable.
Stable, yes. Labeled as an ASF Release, no. In my view.
I am not on the Incubator PMC, but I feel that a project still bearing
incubator status should not be permitted to ma
Copying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for policy check.
On 9/20/2003 1:54 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
IIRC incubating projects should not create full releases (the reason
being that the ASF makes a long term commitment to maintain all full
releases) until the incubation process is finished (but thi
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