[STATUS] Apache Geronimo Project

2004-04-19 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Status report from the Geronimo PPMC * The project status file (/home/cvs/incubator-geronimo/STATUS) is up to date. * Geir Magnusson is preparing a response to the JBoss letter for approval by the ASF Board. It concludes that there is no validity to the cl

RE: I would like to join the Geronimo project

2004-01-26 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
vian Tanase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: I would like to join the Geronimo project > > as a developer, please find my resume attached. > > Cheers, > --Octavian -

I would like to join the Geronimo project

2004-01-25 Thread Octavian Tanase
as a developer, please find my resume attached. Cheers, --Octavian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread Ted Leung
On 12/2/03 10:37 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Ted Leung wrote: On 12/1/03 10:00 AM, David Jencks wrote: Not to mention Xerces (definitely a person) and Alexandria (city in Egypt), Merlin (religious and possibly a person's name), Pluto (religious and possibly a geographical place, depending on whet

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Sander Striker wrote: On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 09:29, Bruce Snyder wrote: This one time, at band camp, Berin Lautenbach said: BL>> 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them BL>> accountable for their decision. BL> BL>+1. I think the Incubator PMC is in a kind of unique po

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread Steven Noels
On Dec 3, 2003, at 7:37 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Ted Leung wrote: Xerces is a butterfly. It is not a misspelling of Xerxes (the person) According to http://www.xerces.org/Xerces.htm "The French entomologist Boisduval named the butterfly for King Xerxes, but retained the French spelling, Xerces.

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread Sander Striker
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 09:29, Bruce Snyder wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Berin Lautenbach said: > > BL>> 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them > BL>> accountable for their decision. > BL> > BL>+1. I think the Incubator PMC is in a kind of unique position. We

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread Bruce Snyder
This one time, at band camp, Berin Lautenbach said: BL>> 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them BL>> accountable for their decision. BL> BL>+1. I think the Incubator PMC is in a kind of unique position. We are BL>trying to ensure that new projects/new committers in

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-03 Thread James Strachan
On 30 Nov 2003, at 21:20, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The project was initiated on condition that the name would be reconsidered prior to becoming a TLP. Agreed. My feeling is lets postpone this discussion until becoming a TLP. We're gonna have to move CVS repos, change mail lists etc anyways when

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-02 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Ted Leung wrote: On 12/1/03 10:00 AM, David Jencks wrote: Not to mention Xerces (definitely a person) and Alexandria (city in Egypt), Merlin (religious and possibly a person's name), Pluto (religious and possibly a geographical place, depending on whether you think planets have geography), and

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-02 Thread Ted Leung
On 12/1/03 10:00 AM, David Jencks wrote: Not to mention Xerces (definitely a person) and Alexandria (city in Egypt), Merlin (religious and possibly a person's name), Pluto (religious and possibly a geographical place, depending on whether you think planets have geography), and possibly Avalon (

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-02 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 07:28:09AM +0100, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > Aaron Bannert wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:04:46PM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Put in tangible terms, I would much prefer to see a incubator puruse a > >> vote of [no] confidence in the Geronimo PPC than to have the incuba

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-02 Thread Danny Angus
> Geronimo was an Apache was he not? So it definitley seems odd that we > can name our whole organization after the people of Geronimo but not > Geronimo himself (yes, I know the name came from "a patchy server, but > that's not obvious to anyone most of the time). I understand that Andy Oliv

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Aaron Bannert wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:04:46PM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: >> Put in tangible terms, I would much prefer to see a incubator puruse a >> vote of [no] confidence in the Geronimo PPC than to have the incubator >> continue to debate the name of the project. > Calling this a bikesh

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:18 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: Hmm, how about: Apache ctx.lookup("apache/j2ee/name"); It's unpronounceable, but so is httpd ;-) I can pronounce it, but I then have to wipe my screen :D geir -Brian On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 03:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Dec 0

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
.S. Hey! I have an idea! instead of renaming the Geronimo project, why don't we make up a symbol that will mean "The Project Formerly Known as Geronimo" -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:04:46PM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: > Put in tangible terms, I would much prefer to see a incubator puruse a > vote of [no] confidence in the Geronimo PPC than to have the incubator > continue to debate the name of the project. There is no Geronimo PMC. The mere fact that

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Brian McCallister
Hmm, how about: Apache ctx.lookup("apache/j2ee/name"); It's unpronounceable, but so is httpd ;-) -Brian On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 03:42 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:18:15AM -0800, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 12/1/03 12:16 AM, "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:18:15AM -0800, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > On 12/1/03 12:16 AM, "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 07:10:16PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> ... > >> Appropriating the name "Geronimo" for our uses will cause, and has > >> caused, controversy.

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread David Jencks
On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 08:06 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: Then we have to prevent such discussions in the future by setting clearer rules. Ideas? Possible addition: "The name should not be a name of a person, geographical entity, of religious nature or generally insulting. Since the definition

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
>>> 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them >>> accountable for their decision. > > We are not deciding on the name but on the need or not to have a name > > change. In case for a name change, this will surely be the case. > At which point, they will be autonomous until t

"Geronimo" Project; was Official Name

2003-12-01 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Sam Ruby wrote: Put in tangible terms, I would much prefer to see a incubator puruse a vote of [no] confidence in the Geronimo PPC than to have the incubator continue to debate the name of the project. That would clear up a lot. +1 from a non-voter. .V -

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I very much like the government model that the ASF board operates on. It does not meddle in PMC decisions. If the board does not like the way some project is operating - it typically has only one rather blunt instrument to use: disband the PMC. This has the nice side bene

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> I very much like the government model that the ASF board operates on. > It does not meddle in PMC decisions. If the board does not like the way > some project is operating - it typically has only one rather blunt > instrument to use: disband the PMC. This has the nice side benefit as > it encou

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: ... 1) Have the incubator PMC identify a clear set of constraints that apply to *all* names. Vote on them, document them, and move on. Right. What is our policy? ATM here is our rule: " Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist a

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> I'm changing my vote, not because I don't believe in my earlier > thoughts, but becausewe are wasting so much time and energy on something > that should be much simpler. This gets my vote for the most unprincipled vote in this whole thread. Andreas --

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Aaron Bannert wrote: The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one of the following choices: [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sam Ruby wrote: ... 1) Have the incubator PMC identify a clear set of constraints that apply to *all* names. Vote on them, document them, and move on. Right. What is our policy? ATM here is our rule: " Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and check www.nameprotect.co

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
"Brian Behlendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Despite this, I like Geronimo as a name. However, I think it'd be a poor > choice for two reasons previously noted: other software products already > using that name, and the *potential* it has to cause quite a bit of > trouble. It's really not t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Sam Ruby wrote: The inevitable result of these two factors is an interminable discussion on the naming of a project. IMHO, the right answer is *not* to buck this up to the incubator PMC, or to members, or *gasp* to the board. A much better approach would be: 1) Have the incubator PMC identify

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 12/1/03 12:16 AM, "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 07:10:16PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: >> ... >> Appropriating the name "Geronimo" for our uses will cause, and has >> caused, controversy. > > I believe the only controversy has been from people who state that th

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 07:10:16PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: >... > Appropriating the name "Geronimo" for our uses will cause, and has > caused, controversy. I believe the only controversy has been from people who state that the name will cause controversy. IOW, it is entirely self-generated, rathe

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Roy made a comment that a condition for leaving the incubator is that > > the name be changed. I hadn't heard that before > I said that the condition was that it would be reconsidered Sorry to misunderstand. Thanks for the clarification. -

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-12-01 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Roy made a comment that a condition for leaving the incubator is that the name be changed. I hadn't heard that before, but those are two incompatible views. I said that the condition was that it would be reconsidered; basically, that any comments to the effect that it is now "too late" or the na

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Personally, I view Political Correctness as being closer to Orwellian > thought control than a sincere attempt to instill appreciation for, and > tolerance of, diversity. And I think "Political Correctness" is a term invented by the right to pretend th

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> 1) The incubator PMC is acquiring new PMC members, and will > asymptotically aproach the list of all ASF committers who > are involved in any way with any aspect of growth or > regeneration of code bases. In short, it will become the > epitame of an uber umbrella PMC. As you are aware, we are d

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Leo Simons wrote: And how is this not a community decision? IMV, the community has decided, and making a different decision now would be overruling that decision by the pmc. Which is valid, of course, but I don't have to like it :D +1 Stefano recently used the term bureaucracy to describe aspects

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Aaron Bannert wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 08:53:55PM +0100, Leo Simons wrote: Aaron Bannert wrote: [ -0 ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ -0 ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ -1 ] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any other nam

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
The project was initiated on condition that the name would be reconsidered prior to becoming a TLP. I don't really care at this point, except to note that if we do get an objection regarding the name from folks who have a right to object, then the project will have to change its name and everyone

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 08:53:55PM +0100, Leo Simons wrote: > Aaron Bannert wrote: > > > [ -0 ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. > > [ -0 ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [ -1 ] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any > > other name th

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Aaron Bannert wrote: [ -0 ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ -0 ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ -1 ] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any other name they want (barring anything inappropriate). I don't like multiple-choice votes

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Noel J. Bergman wrote: It should be left up to the project unless Geronimo is truly deemed inappropriate. The developers may wish to avoid the whole issue by renaming the codebase to something else but not be forced out of the name because it's perceived to be controversial by some. Unle

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 05:04:52PM +0100, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > > Rich Bowen wrote: > > >The fact of the matter is that, in the USA, any mention of any minority > >(aka non-white) historical figure or group of people, by persons not in > >that group, is guaranteed to cause someone to be offend

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Sally Khudairi
rands consistent. Cheers, Sally --- "Brian. W. Fitzpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject: [Fwd: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" > Project] > From: "Brian. W. Fitzpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > I must admit that it is totally beyond my understanding how one > can waste so much thoughts on the *possibility* of offending > someone with something Welcome to the wonderful world of Political Correctness. There are plenty of cases of political correctness that are the

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Rich Bowen wrote: The fact of the matter is that, in the USA, any mention of any minority (aka non-white) historical figure or group of people, by persons not in that group, is guaranteed to cause someone to be offended. I must admit that it is totally beyond my understanding how one can waste so

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Nov 29, 2003, at 2:20 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian hero. So som

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Aaron Bannert wrote: The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one of the following choices: [X] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ ] - D

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I honestly didn't think the use of the name in this context was an abuse. I don't think it is abuse -- he is a historical figure and he died over 100 years ago, so there is no real fear of being sued for it. I just think it is wrong. Roy

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to > be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one > of the following choices: [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [X] - Disallow "Geronim

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 18:45, Rich Bowen wrote: > On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > > people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian her

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> It should be left up to the project unless Geronimo is truly deemed > inappropriate. > The developers may wish to avoid the whole issue by renaming the > codebase to something else but not be forced out of the name > because it's perceived to be controversial by some. Unless the Membership or t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Rich Bowen
On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Of course I'm listening and am also asking you to think. It's > controversial for a reason: most likely it's because some indigenous > peoples find the use of their names in some contexts to be derogatory or > offensive. I'm just asking people to think if in

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 18:35, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Apache was named after the Apache tribes -- "a patchy" server was an > afterthought. We've generally avoided any discussion of the topic > because involvement of a native american "activist" will only result > in trouble for us. Those people a

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 01:25:40PM -0800, Aaron Bannert wrote: > [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. > [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [X] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any > other name they want (barring anything inappr

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 17:56, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Jason van Zyl wrote: > > All I'm trying to express is that the name is not being used > > in any derogatory sense and that the name Geronimo is being > > used in a positive light. > > Tell that to the people protesting sports teams using the na

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 14:50, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:41, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 14:31, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > > > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > > > > something nasty like that. It's a piec

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Rich Bowen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > > people some choice and

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Rich Bowen
On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian hero. So some > coke and twinkie consuming, pasty white prog

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Apache was named after the Apache tribes -- "a patchy" server was an afterthought. We've generally avoided any discussion of the topic because involvement of a native american "activist" will only result in trouble for us. Those people are not Apache -- they don't even have a clue. The various t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Rich Bowen
On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Geronimo was an Apache was he not? So it definitley seems odd that we > can name our whole organization after the people of Geronimo but not > Geronimo himself (yes, I know the name came from "a patchy server, but > that's not obvious to anyone most of the ti

RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jason van Zyl wrote: > All I'm trying to express is that the name is not being used > in any derogatory sense and that the name Geronimo is being > used in a positive light. Tell that to the people protesting sports teams using the name "Braves" or "Redskins", or anything else having a Native Amer

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian. W. Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:41, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 14:31, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > > > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > > > people some choice and it uses t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 14:31, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > > people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian hero. So some > > coke and twinki

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian. W. Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:11, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:47, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:36, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > > > So the ASF has actually received messages from Apache indians that are > > > offended by the use of the name Apache? > > >

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian. W. Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:11, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:47, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:36, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > > > So the ASF has actually received messages from Apache indians that are > > > offended by the use of the name Apache? > > >

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Aaron Bannert wrote: > [X] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. > [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [ ] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any > other name they want (barring anything inappropriate). Unless

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or > something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives > people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian hero. So some > coke and twinkie consuming, pasty white pr

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:47, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:36, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > So the ASF has actually received messages from Apache indians that are > > offended by the use of the name Apache? > > I don't know... take it up with the board. I do, however, kno

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian. W. Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:36, Jason van Zyl wrote: > So the ASF has actually received messages from Apache indians that are > offended by the use of the name Apache? I don't know... take it up with the board. I do, however, know that using Native American/American Indian names for just about anyt

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:08, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Geronimo was an Apache was he not? So it definitley seems odd that we > > can name our whole organization after the people of Geronimo but not > > Geronimo himself (yes, I know the name came from "a patchy server, but > > that's not obv

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:08, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 11:55, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:31, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > "Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > And to clarify: Native American Indian tribe names are inappr

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian. W. Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 11:55, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:31, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > "Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > And to clarify: Native American Indian tribe names are inappropiate. > > > > Given the name "Apache" .. this is an inconsistent

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:31, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > "Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > And to clarify: Native American Indian tribe names are inappropiate. > > Given the name "Apache" .. this is an inconsistent statement. Is this > (a new) political correctness thing or so

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 16:25, Aaron Bannert wrote: > The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to > be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one > of the following choices: > > > [+1] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. > [ ] - Punt

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
"Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And to clarify: Native American Indian tribe names are inappropiate. Given the name "Apache" .. this is an inconsistent statement. Is this (a new) political correctness thing or some policy? I'm obviously not native American, but if I were I'd per

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Sander Striker
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 22:25, Aaron Bannert wrote: > The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to > be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one > of the following choices: > > > [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. > [ ] - Punt t

Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Brian W. Fitzpatrick
On Nov 28, 2003, at 1:25 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ +1] - Disallow "Geronimo" but allow the committers to come up with any other name they want (barring anything inappropriate). -Fitz

[VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project

2003-11-29 Thread Aaron Bannert
The Geronimo folks are talking about making logos and there seems to be a desire to have official signoff on the name. Please vote on one of the following choices: [ ] - Let them keep "Geronimo" as the official name. [ ] - Punt the decision to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ ] - Disallow "Geronimo" but

I very want to involved with Apache Geronimo project.

2003-08-14 Thread john lee
Hi: I very admire the apache group and your robust and powerful projects. I was so exciting when heard that the Apache Geronimo project has been launched. I want to join and contrubute myself to this project. How to do this? Please tell me in detail. I have worked 7 years as software

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2003-08-14 Thread Henrikh Karpynskyi
Hello My name is Henrikh Karpynskyi I am Sr Software Engineer (REI Systems) with 6+ years of expirience. Java - 4yrs, J2EE - 3 yrs I have expirience also with RMI ,CORBA and WebServices and would be very intrested in participating in Apache J2EE project. I could spend for this project at least

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2003-08-14 Thread Jaya Krishna
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2003-08-14 Thread Steve Ferjanec
Hello, I would like to find out more about participation in the Apache Geronimo project. I am currently a web developer at Johnson and Johnson. I designed and maintain the finance department website, and am lead architect and developer on a web application which provides the finance

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2003-08-14 Thread Deb, Abhijit
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Wishing to Join Apache Geronimo Project.

2003-08-14 Thread Jagadheeswari Adhimurthy
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Geronimo - project pages?

2003-08-11 Thread Robert Bergelin
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Participate in Geronimo Project

2003-08-08 Thread Arjun Mukherjee
Hi, My name is Arjun Mukherjee and I am the Chief Software Architect of Virtusa India Ltd. I am proponent of collaboratively developed software and have benefited tremendously from them in my career. I would like to contribute to the Geronimo project. My Brief Profile: > Total Experience:

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2003-08-06 Thread Sam . Vaitheeswaran
Hi I am a programmer with more than 11 years experience in Smalltalk and Java projects. Currently I am working on J2EE projects. I was wondering whether I could contribute to this project. Cheers Sam Vaitheeswaran NOTICE - Thi