Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So we’ve over the 50% mark, so those who has responded a number have indicated that they will put more effort into mentoring and stay on, 7 people so far will continue as mentors, 19 have asked to step down. We had every one of the gearpump mentors ask to step down, but given the project i

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-18 Thread Dave Fisher
As requested - WHIMSY-207 Show Github username on Roster Tables Regards, Dave > On Sep 17, 2018, at 4:17 PM, sebb wrote: > > On 17 September 2018 at 23:02, Dave Fisher wrote: >> A mapping is made on id.apache.org and shown on whimsy. A patch

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread sebb
On 17 September 2018 at 23:02, Dave Fisher wrote: > A mapping is made on id.apache.org and shown on whimsy. A patch to add a > github username column to the roster page in whimsy would make life easier. Please raise an enhancement JIRA . > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 17,

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
A mapping is made on id.apache.org and shown on whimsy. A patch to add a github username column to the roster page in whimsy would make life easier. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Indeed. > > And even if it seems obvious, that isn't al

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Ted Dunning
Indeed. And even if it seems obvious, that isn't always obviously correct. Establishing a mapping or using an Apache ID is important. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:45 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > Github id does not often equal Apache id. It is not always obvious. > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPh

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:43 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > But apart from all of that GitHub issues should definitely be mirrored > back > > to the mailing list. There's no way to justify that an issue tracker is > > not echoed back. > > They were not being, but that’s being changed, and t

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Github id does not often equal Apache id. It is not always obvious. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Obviously, lots of informational activity occurs off the mailing list. A > great example is answering questions on stack overflow. And Ap

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > But apart from all of that GitHub issues should definitely be mirrored back > to the mailing list. There's no way to justify that an issue tracker is > not echoed back. They were not being, but that’s being changed, and the mentor is now signed up to the dev list where they were not befor

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Ted Dunning
Obviously, lots of informational activity occurs off the mailing list. A great example is answering questions on stack overflow. And ApacheCon talks which actually led to certain decisions being made should definitely be echoed back to the mailing list. But apart from all of that GitHub issues sho

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Julian Hyde
By that argument there’s no point speaking at ApacheCon. Because it doesn’t happen on a mailing list. So let’s not be so strict. Clearly there are many ways that a mentor can assist. Some of them are not measurable (such as having a phone call). But I think any measurable activity should count

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread sebb
On 17 September 2018 at 12:10, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Maybe I am missing something here, but how would GitHub contributions >> contribute to mentoring? > > Well I thought it wouldn't which is why I didn’t include it, but as some > projects use GitHub issues a lot, so some stuff tends to

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Maybe I am missing something here, but how would GitHub contributions > contribute to mentoring? Well I thought it wouldn't which is why I didn’t include it, but as some projects use GitHub issues a lot, so some stuff tends to get discussed there rather than on the dev list. There’s a fe

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-17 Thread sebb
On 17 September 2018 at 02:39, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > Current 1/3 of those asked have responded with: > -17 mentors have asked to retire/step down > - 3 will continue (including one who asked to step down but changed their > mind and has been added back) > > Of the total above 1 mentor wa

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Current 1/3 of those asked have responded with: -17 mentors have asked to retire/step down - 3 will continue (including one who asked to step down but changed their mind and has been added back) Of the total above 1 mentor was miss-identified as missing as they are mostly active in GitHub a

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-15 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So far 20% of mentors has responded with: - 11 asking to retire/step down/be removed as mentors - 1 has stated that they will be more active and asked to stay on - 1 will stay on until project graduates For the mentors that have asked to be removed, I’ve asked them to send an email to their

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-15 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I’ve just sent out an email to all (62) inactive mentors asking them if they want to continue as a mentor. I decided not to have replies come to here as I think it wild make too much noise on this list but I’ll report back with the results once I mentors start getting back to me. Thanks, J

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > And thankfully, I'm on this list and looked this up here--as this came as a > bit of a shock. It's not that I didn't already know that Daniel was > overwhelmed. :) It's just I didn't expect the forthcoming "remove from > Annotator" email. He asked to be removed as a mentor, because as fa

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-10 Thread Benjamin Young
ghtly more informative "removed from" emails. Thanks! Benjamin -- http://bigbluehat.com/ http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung From: Justin Mclean Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:40:39 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Email to be sent to

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Adina Crainiceanu
Justin, Can you please remove Josh Elser from the list of inactive mentors for Rya? He only missed the last report and he is always available when we have questions. Thank you, Adina On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > There been several discussions over several mon

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I honestly don't have the time to mentor them in an official capacity - if > I'm listed as anything but champion, then yes, remove me as a mentor. I'll > continue in a low-capacity to provide help when I can, but I have other > priorities first and foremost :) Done and sorted. Thanks, J

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 09/09/2018 11:33 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: HI, There seems to be a bit of confusion here. I am not a mentor for Annotator, yet I am listed as one. You listed as one here. [1] It get it’s info (I believe) from the podling.xml files which has this in it for Annotator:

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > There seems to be a bit of confusion here. I am not a mentor for Annotator, > yet I am listed as one. You listed as one here. [1] It get it’s info (I believe) from the podling.xml files which has this in it for Annotator: Nick Kew Brian McCallister

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Daniel Gruno
There seems to be a bit of confusion here. I am not a mentor for Annotator, yet I am listed as one. I did champion it (and offer advice/help on occasion), but AIUI the champion's duties officially stop once the project has entered incubation and gotten set up. If this is not the case, then our

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Perhaps add some recognition in the text of the email that there may > be activity that we are unaware of? (Unlikely, but it seems rude to > presume.) I guess it’s possible you can mentor by just watching and only directing were needed, so if everything going well there may be no need for

Re: Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-08 Thread Julian Hyde
Perhaps add some recognition in the text of the email that there may be activity that we are unaware of? (Unlikely, but it seems rude to presume.) I strongly support your efforts to hold mentors accountable. Thanks for doing it, Justin! Julian On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 5:53 PM Justin Mclean wrote:

Email to be sent to inactive mentors

2018-09-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, There been several discussions over several month on what to do about missing mentors. In some case have a missing mentors is not an issue and there’s other mentors that can help, whoever currently we have a number of podling with only one or two active mentors and the board has concerns ab