RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Craig Russell wrote: > we close that particular documentation loophole and have everyone > understand the "official project assets" rule. I don't disagree. And the documentation ought to speak as much to purpose and intent as technique. When we focus on technique, as technology changes, intent m

RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martijn Dashorst wrote: > > The policy on wikis is ASF-wide. I don't believe any separate Incubator > > policy is required. > However, incubator is special in this regard. Adding committers and > PPMC members needs to go through the IPMC. How does that make the Incubator special? If you stop ty

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Mar 24, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Luciano Resende wrote: Based on previous discussion [1], the Tuscany PPMC has voted to grant some some community members, with proper CLA on file, to have write access to the Confluence wiki website. Is this NOT acceptable anymore?

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Craig L Russell
On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Craig Russell wrote: IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. It is a corner case because of technology, not intent. The Confluence-b

RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Luciano Resende wrote: > From what you said, we are on the same page, and this is how it happened. Right. I don't have any issue with what you've done, as described. I had no one here particularly in mind when I posted the general notice. It was actually instigated by a situation elsewhere wit

RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Martin Cooper wrote: > Craig L Russell wrote: > > IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn > > repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. > The policy on wikis is ASF-wide. I don't believe any separate Incubator > policy is required. +1

RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Craig Russell wrote: > IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn > repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. It is a corner case because of technology, not intent. The Confluence-backed web sites are outside of the technology assumptions

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 3/24/08, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn > > repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. > The policy

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn > repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. The policy on wikis is ASF-wide. I don't believe any separate Incubator p

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Luciano Resende
>From what you said, we are on the same page, and this is how it happened. Thanks On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luciano Resende wrote: > > > Based on previous discussion [1], the Tuscany PPMC has voted to grant > > some some community members, wit

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Craig L Russell
IIRC, write access to wiki pages, distinct from write access to an svn repository, is not currently covered in the Incubator policy or guides. If nothing happens in the interim, I propose discussing this "corner case" at the Incubator Hackathon in ApacheCon EU Amsterdam in a couple of weeks

RE: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-24 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Luciano Resende wrote: > Based on previous discussion [1], the Tuscany PPMC has voted to grant > some some community members, with proper CLA on file, to have write > access to the Confluence wiki website. Is this NOT acceptable anymore? PMC must vote, so let's be clear on this: minimum of 3 bind

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-23 Thread Martin Cooper
Noel specifically said "Confluence-backed web sites". A regular wiki that is not used to create a web site does not have the same restriction, whether it's on Confluence or MoinMoin. For the full story, see: http://cwiki.apache.org/CWIKI/ -- Martin Cooper On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Dan Di

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-23 Thread Dan Diephouse
Also the other wiki at http://wiki.apache.org/general/ doesn't follow this policy AFAICT. Why does confluence have to? Luciano Resende wrote: Based on previous discussion [1], the Tuscany PPMC has voted to grant some some community members, with proper CLA on file, to have write access to the C

Re: Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-23 Thread Luciano Resende
Based on previous discussion [1], the Tuscany PPMC has voted to grant some some community members, with proper CLA on file, to have write access to the Confluence wiki website. Is this NOT acceptable anymore ? [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg14390.html On Sun, Mar

Confluence Based Website Access Control

2008-03-23 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Just a reminder to all PMC Members and podlings: no one is to have write access to a Confluence-backed web site who is not a Committer on the project. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional