Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread Jake Farrell
frain from offering your advice to mentors asking for constructive > >>help. > >> > >> That is not to say projects should linger, but unless mentors advise it > >>we > >> should not be interfering. > >> > >> Ross > >> > &

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread Julian Hyde
Ok, I’ve started a DISCUSS thread. > On Apr 7, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Julian Hyde wrote: >> I agree. I think this project has been dead for a while, and we’re just >> prolonging the agony. > > As an initial Champion (but NOT a mentor) I

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Julian Hyde wrote: > I agree. I think this project has been dead for a while, and we’re just > prolonging the agony. As an initial Champion (but NOT a mentor) I have to agree :-( > If we were to wind up the project, how would we proceed? A vote on > concerted's

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread Julian Hyde
r to offer than "give up" then >>> please >>> refrain from offering your advice to mentors asking for constructive >>> help. >>> >>> That is not to say projects should linger, but unless mentors advise it >>> we >>> should not

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread Chris Nauroth
uld not be interfering. >> >> Ross >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ____ >> From: Julian Hyde<mailto:jh...@apache.org> >> Sent: ?1/?9/?2016 12:37 PM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-04-07 Thread John D. Ament
rfering. > > Ross > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > From: Julian Hyde<mailto:jh...@apache.org> > Sent: ‎1/‎9/‎2016 12:37 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Concerted may be i

RE: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-09 Thread Ross Gardler
uld not be interfering. Ross Sent from my Windows Phone From: Julian Hyde<mailto:jh...@apache.org> Sent: ‎1/‎9/‎2016 12:37 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: Concerted may be in need of help (Removing dev@conce

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-09 Thread John D. Ament
Technically Julian, I brought this issue up to the incubator, but I am glad that my impressions of concerted aren't too far off. Generally speaking, while not necessarily a requirement, the purpose of the quarterly report is to see that the podling continues to make progress. If the IPMC sees tha

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-09 Thread Julian Hyde
(Removing dev@concerted from the To: list.) Good grief. No one is suggesting there should be "steady activity requirement". I and other Concerted mentors just have a hunch that the project isn't doing well, and thought it would be better to bring our concerns to this list earlier rather than later

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-09 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Chris Nauroth wrote: > > As a Concerted mentor, I agree with the concern about lack of activity. I > think this was a difficult month for the project considering both the > general drop in participation and the typical drop in activity that we > should expect to h

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-09 Thread Chris Nauroth
gt;Sent: ?1/?8/?2016 7:35 PM >To: general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org> >Cc: >d...@concerted.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@concerted.incubator.apache.o >rg>; Atri Sharma<mailto:atri.j...@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: Concerted may be in nee

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-08 Thread Chris Nauroth
ted.incubator.apache.org<mailto:d...@concerted.incubator.apache.org>" mailto:d...@concerted.incubator.apache.org>>, Atri Sharma mailto:atri.j...@gmail.com>> Subject: RE: Concerted may be in need of help +1 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Roman Shaposhni

RE: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-08 Thread Ross Gardler
ator.apache.org>; Atri Sharma<mailto:atri.j...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Concerted may be in need of help On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Atri, > > It looks like community building is going slowly with Concerted. This is > understandable as a part-time a

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Atri, > > It looks like community building is going slowly with Concerted. This is > understandable as a part-time activity. > > Would it be simpler and better for the project to build a community outside > Apache and bring the project back for

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-07 Thread Ted Dunning
Atri, It looks like community building is going slowly with Concerted. This is understandable as a part-time activity. Would it be simpler and better for the project to build a community outside Apache and bring the project back for incubation once you have done so? That would allow you consider

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-07 Thread Atri Sharma
Hi, Sorry for the delay in response. The current issue is that existing PPMC has become dormant mostly and myself and one more person are the ones active right now. We have voted in a new committer last month. The current development looks at cleaning up the current code which has been mostly d

Re: Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:24 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...Please, do share your thoughts on the situation (both Concerted and the > wider incubator community) If the podling has no activity and no one shows up to provide reports, I'd say it's a candidate for retirement. -Bertrand --

Concerted may be in need of help

2016-01-07 Thread John D. Ament
All, The Concerted podling seems to have taken a pretty sharp drop in participation since joining the incubator. They started their first month very strong, high participation. They are currently in a situation where no one has committed since November (they just started in October of last year)