Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-13 Thread Paolo Bizzarri
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:02 AM Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Dave, first thank you for your reply. > > > I’m not part of your community, so it is possible I’m misreading this, > but I see some issues from a casual glance. IMO, the two proposals need to > be discussed further and consensus reached befor

Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-12 Thread Paolo Bizzarri
Hi Tison, thanks for the clarification. You are right, the voting document says that only PPMC members have vetoing rights. I think this answer my initial question, i.e: - vetos on code changes exist, as per Apache Voting Process - PPMC members can veto code changes - including proposals like t

Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-12 Thread tison
Hi Paolo, Perhaps the wording in the voting process [1] page is not accurate. In my understanding, the "Binding votes" part is appled for all the three vote types. It writes: > Who can vote is, to some extent, a community-specific thing. > > PMC members have formally binding votes, but in general

Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-11 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, > On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:23 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Looking at the first propopal, I was surprised to discover > https://www.kie.org/ - having a domain name like this is not in line with ASF > trademark policy, nor is having a domain name like https://kogito.kie.org/. > There

Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-11 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Looking at the first propopal, I was surprised to discover https://www.kie.org/ - having a domain name like this is not in line with ASF trademark policy, nor is having a domain name like https://kogito.kie.org/. There are other trademark issues with those site(s), I trust the PPMC is aware

Re: Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-11 Thread Alex Porcelli
Adding some context to this discussion: - Apache KIE mentor Brian has provided guidance on similar matters before [1][2]. - A guideline is already in place to define how discussions, proposals, and votes should work [3], and it was formally approved [4]. Regarding the proposals in question, they

Clarification on the -1 policy for code changes

2025-03-11 Thread Paolo Bizzarri
Hello, this is Paolo Bizzarri. I am part of the Apache Kie project. I am looking for clarifications about the official policy of Apache foundation about code changes and vetoes. As per this document in the Apache web site, a -1 to a proposal for a code change is a veto - i.e. it "kills the propo