[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
We have received 4 IPMC +1 votes (plus an additional 3 PPMC +1 votes) during the release voting on kafka-users and general. Results: IPMC Members/Mentors: +1 [4] 0 [0] -1 [0] PPMC Members: +1 [3] 0 [0] -1 [0] The vote is successful Voting Record: **Chris Douglas: +1 (g) Chris Mattma

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating (candidate 9)

2011-12-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Normally the vote takes place on both lists simultaneously and all the votes are aggregated. Can you aggregate all the votes? Thanks! Regards, Alan On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > With 4 +1 votes, this vote has passed. In addition to this, the vote has > passe

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-24 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, With 3 binding IPMC votes, this vote has passed. The following IPMC members voted with a +1 on this release - Chris Douglas Chris Mattman Arun Murthy We will work on releasing Kafka 0.7. Thank you everyone who worked in this release ! Thanks, Neha On Thursday, December 22, 2011, Arun C Mur

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-22 Thread Arun C Murthy
+1 (binding) Verified sigs, checked NOTICE and ran tests. Arun On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > Kafka community is excited to share RC 9 for release of > Kafka-0.7.0-incubating. In the interest of saving time, and with the > expectation that the one-liner change will

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 from me (binding). KEYS check out: [chipotle:~/tmp/kafka-0.7.0] mattmann% curl -O http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/kafka/KEYS % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time Current Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Speed

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Jakob Homan
+1. Verified the usual stuff. Updated NOTICE looks good. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Checksum and signature match, unit tests passed. Verified that the > only change was to the NOTICE, so checks from the previous thread > hold. -C > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Douglas
+1 (binding) Checksum and signature match, unit tests passed. Verified that the only change was to the NOTICE, so checks from the previous thread hold. -C On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > Kafka community is excited to share RC 9 for release of > Kafka-0.7.0-incubat

[VOTE] Release Kafka-0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, Kafka community is excited to share RC 9 for release of Kafka-0.7.0-incubating. In the interest of saving time, and with the expectation that the one-liner change will pass the vote on kafka-users@, we will run a vote in parallel here. Vote thread http://markmail.org/message/sefgr5lxccty4tjz?

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Neha Narkhede
Sebb, This makes sense. We will fix the NOTICE file and restart the VOTE on general@ today. Thanks for the feedback! -Neha On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, sebb wrote: > On 20 December 2011 18:51, Neha Narkhede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Kafka community is excited to share that RC 8 for release of

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread sebb
On 20 December 2011 18:51, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > Kafka community is excited to share that RC 8 for release of > Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. > > Please try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating > release. This is the first release of K

[VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-12-20 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, Kafka community is excited to share that RC 8 for release of Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. Please try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. This is the first release of Kafka since we've joined the Apache incubator. Vote thread ht

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-12 Thread Jun Rao
Could someone help take a look at this? This should be pretty simple. We really want to proceed with the voting of the first release of Kafka. Thanks, Jun On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Folks, > > Thanks for giving feedback on the LICENSE and NOTICE file issues. We've >

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-09 Thread Neha Narkhede
Folks, Thanks for giving feedback on the LICENSE and NOTICE file issues. We've worked on the feedback and would appreciate if you could take a look and see if there are no red flags. Please find the LICENSE, NOTICE files and release artifacts for the next RC here - http://people.apache.org/~nehan

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-08 Thread David Crossley
At Forrest we have stacks of supporting products to manage. Each time that we decide to bundle a new one, we try to deal with its license and potential notices at the time. Read their LICENSE. If it has a "required notice" then comply by adding it to our NOTICE file. If it does not, then there is

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
Thanks Kevan. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > >> Here's another one, say Apache TLP A includes works from Apache TLP B, >> is this (B) a "third-party" work or not? Are the "parties" in this >> case singular "the ASF" or t

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > Here's another one, say Apache TLP A includes works from Apache TLP B, > is this (B) a "third-party" work or not? Are the "parties" in this > case singular "the ASF" or the TLPs? Specifically, do I need to > include the NOTICE file from B in the

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
I've opened a couple LEGAL jiras on this stuff to nail it down: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-118 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-119 Thanks all! Patrick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> >> O

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: >> >>> Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under >>> Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this: >>> http

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > >> Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under >> Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this: >> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#required-third-party-no

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Hunt
Ok, thanks for the feedback. I'll open a discussion for this on the whirr list/jira. Patrick On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Normally, when you ship the dependency together with your own > product/project, then (AFAIK) that bigger work needs the NOTICE. If > you don't sh

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Normally, when you ship the dependency together with your own product/project, then (AFAIK) that bigger work needs the NOTICE. If you don't ship it, let's say that you call it a "System Requirement" or "Optional Plugin", then you don't need it. ALSO, more importantly, it looks like Voldemort depe

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: >> >>> Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under >>> Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this: >>> ht

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > >> Personally I don't believe whirr is in error. Voldemort is under >> Apache 2.0 license, and as such falls under this: >> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#required-third-party-

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: >> There is a sample NOTICE file linked [1] from ASF Source Header and >> Copyright Notice Policy [2] >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-examplenotice >> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice > > As someon

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-05 Thread Jakob Homan
> There is a sample NOTICE file linked [1] from ASF Source Header and > Copyright Notice Policy [2] > > [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-examplenotice > [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice As someone trying to generate these documents, I'm actually finding t

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > So I hope it's clear why it's frustrating to > have this rule suddenly pop up when it's apparently not enforced in > the majority of cases (and then to be asked to go and open JIRAs for > each of these projects on top of it). This requirement is f

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, sebb wrote: > On 2 December 2011 09:33, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan wrote: >>>   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at >>> kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has b

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread sebb
On 2 December 2011 09:33, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan wrote: >>   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at >> kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been >> built as a customary courtesy as part of the r

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Jakob Homan wrote: >   You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at > kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been > built as a customary courtesy as part of the release attempt.  This > includes quite a few jars that a

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jun Rao wrote: > Does Apache has tools (like rat) to extract all the needed license? Digging > out the license manually is both labour intensive and error prone. The rat community has started working on whisker[1] (and some other tools) but we really need more vol

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Jakob Homan
Kevan- You appear to have generated your list of jars from looking at kafka-0.7.0-incubating.tar.gz, the binary distribution that has been built as a customary courtesy as part of the release attempt. This includes quite a few jars that are not included in the source tree since binary distribut

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 21:58, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> I took a quick look at some of these artifacts. I definitely see licenses >> missing from the LICENSE file. For example: >> >> paranamer-2.2.jar -- http://paranamer.codehaus.org/info/license.h

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Jun Rao
Does Apache has tools (like rat) to extract all the needed license? Digging out the license manually is both labour intensive and error prone. Thanks, Jun On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > > >>> As it stands, either the

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Chris Douglas
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > I took a quick look at some of these artifacts. I definitely see licenses > missing from the LICENSE file. For example: > > paranamer-2.2.jar -- http://paranamer.codehaus.org/info/license.html The link you reference puts this jar in the publi

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Kevan Miller
On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: >>> As it stands, either the NOTICE file is wrong, or the LICENSE file is > wrong, because the NOTICE file should not mention 3rd party products > that are not in the LICENSE file. > > Thanks for the feedback! As I have already mentioned, we are

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread Neha Narkhede
>> As it stands, either the NOTICE file is wrong, or the LICENSE file is wrong, because the NOTICE file should not mention 3rd party products that are not in the LICENSE file. Thanks for the feedback! As I have already mentioned, we are tracking a bug to fix all non-blocker changes to the NOTICE f

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
On 1 December 2011 02:29, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > The Kafka community is hoping to get some feedback on the updated NOTICE > and LICENSE files for Kafka, before we post a new vote for it. > > http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/NOTICE There are spurious "===" lines at the top of the fil

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-12-01 Thread sebb
n 3rd party licenses. >  - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Neha Narkhede [mailto:neha.narkh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 18:30 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: kafka-us...@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Feedback on updated NOTICE and

RE: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Neha Narkhede [mailto:neha.narkh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 18:30 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: kafka-us...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

Re: Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Neha Narkhede
Also, we haven't ignored the fact that the NOTICE file must ideally be as short as possible. To track this issue, we've filed a bug - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-219 and will be fixing it for the next release. Thanks, Neha On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: >

Feedback on updated NOTICE and LICENSE files (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, The Kafka community is hoping to get some feedback on the updated NOTICE and LICENSE files for Kafka, before we post a new vote for it. http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/NOTICE http://people.apache.org/~nehanarkhede/LICENSE The previous vote thread or release artifacts are here - http:/

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread sebb
On 30 November 2011 14:11, Leo Simons wrote: > Yupyup. I thought I'd add a little background rant here, that I wrote > for the jena podling a bit ago. Purely optional reading but maybe > illuminating for some. > > cheerio, > > - Leo > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Leo Simons wrote: >> On Fri,

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Yupyup. I thought I'd add a little background rant here, that I wrote for the jena podling a bit ago. Purely optional reading but maybe illuminating for some. cheerio, - Leo On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Leo Simons wrote: > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Relea

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > The context for this is the discussion here - > http://markmail.org/message/rsxjgrrufc6khlqy?q=overhead+list:org.apache.incubator.general > > This was a long discussion with no clear answers. > > We would like to know if it is OK to

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:34 AM, sebb wrote: > On 29 November 2011 22:25, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: >>> But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why >>> not do so and re-roll? >> >> I'd just leave that up to the releas

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 7:50 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: So, you are saying option 2 is a reasonable choice, given that only the NOTICE/LICENSE files have changed one line here and there ? Yes, if you let the 72 hour vote run through with a clear message that it will be rerolled with a short vote. If every

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Neha Narkhede
So, you are saying option 2 is a reasonable choice, given that only the NOTICE/LICENSE files have changed one line here and there ? Thanks, Neha On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 11/29/2011 7:27 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> On 11/29/2011 4:00 PM, Neha Narkh

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 7:27 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 11/29/2011 4:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: We would like to know if it is OK to either - 1. shorten the release VOTE for change to one non-code file 2. run 72 hour vote in parallel on the dev list as well as on general@ I've never seen a poi

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 4:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: We would like to know if it is OK to either - 1. shorten the release VOTE for change to one non-code file 2. run 72 hour vote in parallel on the dev list as well as on general@ I've never seen a point to 2) to running serial votes. You need only 3

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Paul Querna
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > The context for this is the discussion here - > http://markmail.org/message/rsxjgrrufc6khlqy?q=overhead+list:org.apache.incubator.general > > This was a long discussion with no clear answers. > > We would like to know if it is OK to e

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 22:25, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: >> But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why >> not do so and re-roll? > > I'd just leave that up to the release manager to decide. > > There's no such thing as a perf

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: > But if the team already agrees that the changes need to be made, why > not do so and re-roll? I'd just leave that up to the release manager to decide. There's no such thing as a perfect release (all non-trivial software has errors), so unless t

Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, The context for this is the discussion here - http://markmail.org/message/rsxjgrrufc6khlqy?q=overhead+list:org.apache.incubator.general This was a long discussion with no clear answers. We would like to know if it is OK to either - 1. shorten the release VOTE for change to one non-code file

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 11/29/2011 11:30 AM, sebb wrote: >> >> On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin >>  wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>>  wrote: >>> I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warran

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Neha Narkhede
>> One "shortcut" that can be taken when a /single file/ must be changed (and as discussed on the list, that change already has consensus), would be to roll the next candidate on a shorter 24 approval clock, provided that everyone had full opportunity to review the candidate, and that rest of the p

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/29/2011 11:30 AM, sebb wrote: On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warrant rejecting a podling release, but the next release should fix that. This is one of th

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 16:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >> >> ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry >> about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 re

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM, sebb wrote: > Are there any consequences for downstream users if the file is incorrect? To users no, to redistributors yes. Section 4 of ALv2 makes the "attribution notices contained within" the NOTICE file mandatory for any downstream distribution. Interpre

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM, sebb wrote: > Are there any consequences for downstream users if the file is incorrect? > > Are there any consequences for the ASF? Depends but potentially in some cases, yes. Robert - To unsub

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry > about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release > > It think it *is* a requirement, according to > http:

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I agree that a non-minimal NOTICE might not warrant rejecting a podling > release, but the next release should fix that. Agreed. For some background: Keeping the NOTICE file as lean as possible (given constraints from upstream li

Re: NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 29 November 2011 16:37, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry > about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release > > It think it *is* a requirement, according to > http://apac

NOTICE file must be minimal (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday, November 28, 2011, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: ... It is not a requirement that the NOTICE file be minimal. Let's worry about this for the 0.7.x or 0.8.0 release It think it *is* a requirement, according to http://apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice which specifically refers to *re

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-29 Thread sebb
On 28 November 2011 21:17, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. >> >> 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file >> since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutti

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 28, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. > > 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file > since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutting RCs is a significant > time investment, we'd appreciat

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
Thanks Alan for summarizing the issues! >> We can perform all the other suggestions in a subsequent release. Sebb also had a suggestion about release candidate tags. The kafka community had discussed this and felt that creating a release tag is more convenient to do when a vote passes. Until then

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. > > 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file > since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutting RCs is a significant > time investment, we'd appreciate

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-28 Thread Neha Narkhede
Thanks for the feedback, I still have some questions. 1. Alan, this nunit license acknowledgement is missing from the NOTICE file since RC1 and RC1 had the nunit files. Since cutting RCs is a significant time investment, we'd appreciate if you could list all the concerns you have once. 2. Sebb, i

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-26 Thread ant elder
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:07 AM, sebb wrote: > On 25 November 2011 20:11, ant elder wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:59 AM, ant elder wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On N

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-25 Thread sebb
On 25 November 2011 20:11, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:59 AM, ant elder wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera >>> wrote: On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Ala

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-25 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:59 AM, ant elder wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera >> wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: >>> Alan, >> It's unfortunate that the vote only took

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-25 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:59 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> >> On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: >> >>> Alan, >>> > It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it >>> was my understanding that votes ta

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-24 Thread sebb
On 23 November 2011 23:52, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > Kafka community is excited to share that RC for release of > Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. Please > try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. This is > the first release of Kafka

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-24 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > >> Alan, >> It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it >> was my understanding that votes take 72 hours. >> >> Because the only change was in the NOTICE

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-23 Thread Chris Douglas
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > Yeah, I'm not sure the vote can be shortened.  I could be wrong.  If it can > then I totally agree with the inclination to get goin' with this release.   > I'm sorry it's had so many first and starts. As long as the only modifications bro

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Alan, > >>> It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it > was my understanding that votes take 72 hours. > > Because the only change was in the NOTICE and DISCLAIMER files from > previous RC, our champion (Chris C)

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-23 Thread Neha Narkhede
Alan, >> It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it was my understanding that votes take 72 hours. Because the only change was in the NOTICE and DISCLAIMER files from previous RC, our champion (Chris C) suggested we could run a quicker lazy 24 hour vote. >> Anyway, I

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it was my understanding that votes take 72 hours. Anyway, I've found some problems in the NOTICE file in that Kafka uses/ship NUnit but it's not in the NOTICE file. -1 Regards, Alan On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Neha Narkhe

[VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-23 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, Kafka community is excited to share that RC for release of Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. Please try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. This is the first release of Kafka since we've joined the Apache incubator. Based on the feed

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread sebb
On 18 November 2011 19:33, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:01 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 18 November 2011 15:04, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: >>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: > On 17 November 2011 16:

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:01 AM, sebb wrote: > On 18 November 2011 15:04, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> >> On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: >>> On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao wrote: > Sebb, > > Just to want t

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread sebb
On 18 November 2011 15:04, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > >> >> On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: >> >>> On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao wrote: Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: > >> On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao wrote: >>> Sebb, >>> >>> Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are >>> other Apache projects that release a single distribution wi

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread sebb
On 18 November 2011 08:10, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:58 PM, sebb wrote: >> The sponsoring entity is normally the Incubator, sometimes another PMC. >> According to podlings.xml the sponsor is the Incubator, so please fix the >> site. > > Woah, I hadn't seen that; fixed. Als

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-18 Thread Chris Douglas
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:58 PM, sebb wrote: > The sponsoring entity is normally the Incubator, sometimes another PMC. > According to podlings.xml the sponsor is the Incubator, so please fix the > site. Woah, I hadn't seen that; fixed. Also fixed a reference to Apache Flume (incubating), though

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 18 November 2011 02:17, Chris Douglas wrote: > Thanks Sebb and Kevan. This is helpful. > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the >> LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects the license/notice requirements of

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Chris Douglas
Thanks Sebb and Kevan. This is helpful. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the > LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects the license/notice requirements of > these jar files. > 2) Why are these jars being stored

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Kevan Miller
I took a look at the svn source and the binary artifact and have some additional comments. 1) Your svn contains a number of jar files. I don't believe that the LICENSE/NOTICE file properly reflects the license/notice requirements of these jar files. 2) Why are these jars being stored in your s

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread David Crossley
sebb wrote: > Jun Rao wrote: > > Sebb, > > > > Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are > > other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source > > code and jars. For example, > > http://mirror.metrocast.net/apache//zookeeper/zookeeper-3.3.3/ . So

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Kevan Miller
On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:10 PM, sebb wrote: > On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao wrote: >> Sebb, >> >> Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are >> other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source >> code and jars. For example, >> http://mirror

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread sebb
On 17 November 2011 16:30, Jun Rao wrote: > Sebb, > > Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are > other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source > code and jars. For example, > http://mirror.metrocast.net/apache//zookeeper/zookeeper-3.3.3/ .

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-17 Thread Jun Rao
Sebb, Just to want to clarify on the source distribution. It seems there are other Apache projects that release a single distribution with both source code and jars. For example, http://mirror.metrocast.net/apache//zookeeper/zookeeper-3.3.3/ . So, is source distribution strictly required? Thanks,

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-15 Thread sebb
On 15 November 2011 15:05, Jun Rao wrote: > The distribution does include source code in it. Are you saying that we > should have a separate source distribution with no jars in it? Yes, that is the normal way to do things. The source archive should basically be a copy of the SVN tag, excluding a

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-15 Thread Jun Rao
The distribution does include source code in it. Are you saying that we should have a separate source distribution with no jars in it? Thanks, Jun On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM, sebb wrote: > On 14 November 2011 19:52, Neha Narkhede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Kafka community is excited to share

Re: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-14 Thread sebb
On 14 November 2011 19:52, Neha Narkhede wrote: > Hi, > > Kafka community is excited to share that RC for release of > Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. > Please try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. > This is the first release of Kafka

[VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating

2011-11-14 Thread Neha Narkhede
Hi, Kafka community is excited to share that RC for release of Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. Please try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. This is the first release of Kafka since we've joined the Apache incubator. Vote thread http: