Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Perfect. Upayavira On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:57 -0700, "Alan Gates" wrote: > Alex Karasulu and Owen O'Malley have both volunteered on the private > list and communicated to me off list their willingness to be mentors. > So hopefully that is resolved as well. > > Alan. > > On Mar 12, 2011, at

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Alex Karasulu and Owen O'Malley have both volunteered on the private list and communicated to me off list their willingness to be mentors. So hopefully that is resolved as well. Alan. On Mar 12, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Upayavira wrote: I am concerned that none of the proposed mentors were Incub

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On 3/12/2011 4:21 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Upayavira wrote: > >> I am concerned that none of the proposed mentors were Incubator PMC >> members at the time of the proposal. I believe Alan Gates is now joining >> the Incubator PMC, which is great. However, I'd l

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Upayavira wrote: > I am concerned that none of the proposed mentors were Incubator PMC > members at the time of the proposal. I believe Alan Gates is now joining > the Incubator PMC, which is great. However, I'd like to see mentorship > resolved before we proceed

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

I am concerned that none of the proposed mentors were Incubator PMC members at the time of the proposal. I believe Alan Gates is now joining the Incubator PMC, which is great. However, I'd like to see mentorship resolved before we proceed. Upayavira On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:26 +0200, "Alex Karasulu

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: > Since the only issue raised during voting was the naming problem, now > resolved, I'd say call the vote a success and get on with it. > > +1 > > On Mar 11, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > > The committers and mentors (as listed in

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Since the only issue raised during voting was the naming problem, now resolved, I'd say call the vote a success and get on with it. Craig On Mar 11, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Alan Gates wrote: The committers and mentors (as listed in the original proposal) have voted for hcatalog as the new name.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

The committers and mentors (as listed in the original proposal) have voted for hcatalog as the new name. Web searches I did did not turn up any conflicts with this name. Assuming no one is aware of any naming conflicts, what's our next step? Do we just need Alex to rescind his -1 vote? O

RE: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

> It's going to be a slap in the face of the OW guys if we let it fly. I don't know if it matters in these, er, matters, but the OW in HOWL stands for their trademarked name. In any event, the community has agreed to change the name, so let's put this to bed and move on. --- Noel

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

I think there's agreement in the community of the project formerly known as Howl that we need to change the name as part of starting out in the Incubator. We're discussing alternatives and will propose something, hopefully with clear IP, soon. Alan. On Mar 9, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Alex Karasu

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Alex Karasulu > wrote: > >> > > We might want to defer entry into the incubator until determining the > > trademark issue if one exists. > > While I agree that resolving sooner is better than later, I don't > beli

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: >> > We might want to defer entry into the incubator until determining the > trademark issue if one exists. While I agree that resolving sooner is better than later, I don't believe that entrance to the incubator should be gated on the completi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

There as well existed an open source project called Howl in 2005 or so which implemented Zeroconf (Apple calls the commercial incarnation Bonjour). See: http://www.porchdogsoft.com/ -> About Howl is available in the FreeBSD ports collection and on SF.NET -> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?po

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > Some context here for you. Howl is a project that was recently accepted to > the Incubator. It is a proposed new component in the Hadoop eco system. > There is significant concern in the Incubator that this will clash with the > name of the How

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

I agree we shouldn't move forward until we've come to an agreement on the naming issue. I have no desire to start this project off with this hanging over it. I have continued this thread on legal-discuss, giving more context to hopefully get the best possible input there. I will also sta

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Having gone through project renames from Jsecurity to Ki to Shiro, I can attest that it's much less painful to change the name sooner rather than later. If there's even an indication that a naming/trademark conflict may occur, it almost certainly will at some point. I realize this is not a naming s

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > > > Hi Alan, > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > > > >> We are taking it seriously. We (Howl mentors and committers) discussed > >> this and the consensus seemed to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Hi Alan, > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > >> We are taking it seriously. We (Howl mentors and committers) discussed >> this and the consensus seemed to be we wanted to stay with the name if >> possible. The feedback o

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Hi Alan, On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > We are taking it seriously. We (Howl mentors and committers) discussed > this and the consensus seemed to be we wanted to stay with the name if > possible. The feedback on this list was mixed, with many for changing it > and some not

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

We are taking it seriously. We (Howl mentors and committers) discussed this and the consensus seemed to be we wanted to stay with the name if possible. The feedback on this list was mixed, with many for changing it and some not worried about it. So we wanted to stick with it for now and

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

What about the naming conflict with Howl from ObjectWeb [0]? Anyone address this serious issue yet? I pointed this out a while back and frankly am shocked not to see this resolved. HOWL has been around long before this project: 6 years [1]. So you're cert

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

Thanks Mohammad. All of the mentors are new to the Incubator PMC. Do we talk to someone to get them set up with permissions, added to appropriate lists, etc.? Alan. On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: 1- If there are still some people in the initial committers list wi

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

1- If there are still some people in the initial committers list with no filed ICLA then you should start the process [1]. 2- Mentors should start initiating the podling process steps [2]. 1- http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html 2- http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html On

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

With 9 binding +1 votes and no -1s, the vote passes. I'll take the naming issue back to the Howl contributors to discuss what we want to do about it. What's the next step now? Alan. On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Alan Gates wrote: I would like to call a vote on accepting Howl as an Incubat

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

The naming conflict was brought up but as far as I'm concerned it has not been resolved. +1 for incubating. Change the name, before or after starting incubation. I can suggest to you it's easier to change the name before starting. Craig On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:53 AM, ant elder wrote: The

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1 Ralph On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Alan Gates wrote: > I would like to call a vote on accepting Howl as an Incubator project. The > proposal is available at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal. You > can see the discussion from the proposal thread at http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > +1. > > The name can be changed until graduation. > > Hadrian > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > >> >> On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> However there might be a name conflict with

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1. The name can be changed until graduation. Hadrian On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > >> +1 >> >> However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log over at >> object web here: >> >> http://howl.ow

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

The naming conflict was discussed but it doesn't seem resolved to me - even just in this vote thread there's a bunch of people bringing it up again. I'd guess thats just going to continue while the name is kept, which be avoided by picking a new name now. I expect there will be enough votes in this

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

The naming conflict issue was brought up and resolved during the discussion of the proposal. Please see http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9. Alan. On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:22 AM, dsh wrote: http://www.porchdogsoft.com/ as well provides a Zeroconf implementation called Howl and I am not sure whether Por

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

http://www.porchdogsoft.com/ as well provides a Zeroconf implementation called Howl and I am not sure whether Porchdog Software finally got acquired by Apple. The favicon and certain information on the site could make you think Apple did exactly that. Cheers Daniel On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > >> +1 >> >> However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log over at >> object web here: >> >>   http://howl.ow2.org/ >> >> Originally from the tit

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > +1 > > However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log over at > object web here: > > http://howl.ow2.org/ > > Originally from the title, I immediately thought the > proposal was for OW's HOWL impl

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1 (non-binding) -- leif - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

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+1 However there might be a name conflict with the Howl transaction log over at object web here: http://howl.ow2.org/ Originally from the title, I immediately thought the proposal was for OW's HOWL implementation to enter the incubator. Best, Alex On Wed, Feb 23, 2011

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1 Tommaso 2011/2/23 Alan Gates > I would like to call a vote on accepting Howl as an Incubator project. The > proposal is available at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal. > You can see the discussion from the proposal thread at > http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9. > > Alan. > > --

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

+1 Sounds like a welcome addition to the Hadoop space. LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Alan Gates wrote: > From: Alan Gates > Subject: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 12:20 AM > I would

Re: [VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > I would like to call a vote on accepting Howl as an Incubator project... +1 -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional comman

[VOTE] Accept Howl as an Incubator Project

I would like to call a vote on accepting Howl as an Incubator project. The proposal is available at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal . You can see the discussion from the proposal thread at http://tinyurl.com/5w7y9p9 . Alan. -- Abstract Howl is a table and