Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-23 Thread Jim Hurley
On Jun 23, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Bob Scheifler wrote: Having written that, I guess I've just explained to myself why the ASF project should not be merely "Jini", and should either have a different name or an additional qualifier. (As for trademark issues, I'll defer to Jim Hurley to chime in.) I

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-23 Thread Bob Scheifler
> The community is developing the software, no? The software that's being proposed as the initial source for the ASF project has not been under open source development to date. Almost all of it is code that has been developed and controlled by one group at Sun. There's been active and ongoing com

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
It's my impression that the trademark would be donated to the ASF to avoid this problem. I'm not sure though. geir Leo Simons wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Bob Scheifler wrote: >> Leo Simons wrote: >>> I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:43:13PM -0400, Bob Scheifler wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: > > I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and I > > think > > this means you need a name for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is not "jini" :) > > Could you expand on why you think that? Tha

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, Thanks, but I'm not sure I understand what "confusion" is worried about. The expected new jini.org is an information/community site, not a software development site. I'm not sure there's a significant difference (or that there should be one). The community is developing the software, no?

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Mark Brouwer
Bob Scheifler wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and I think this means you need a name for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is not "jini" :) Could you expand on why you think that? Thanks. Maybe it is also good to emphasis that Jini is a t

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Scheifler
> I should also point you to the follow up :) > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=115092546912444&w=2 FWIW, that just emphasizes to me that the circumstances are different. - Bob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I should also point you to the follow up :) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=115092546912444&w=2 Name change is something to keep in mind as you progress through incubation...There's no hurry. -- dims On 6/22/06, Bob Scheifler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrot

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Scheifler
Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Bit more info here: > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=115091704611860&w=2 Thanks, but I'm not sure I understand what "confusion" is worried about. The expected new jini.org is an information/community site, not a software development site. We also now

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Bit more info here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=115091704611860&w=2 -- dims On 6/22/06, Bob Scheifler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leo Simons wrote: > I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and I think > this means you need a name for "[EMAIL

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Scheifler
Leo Simons wrote: > I guess this means keeping jini.org around for a long time to come, and I > think > this means you need a name for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is not "jini" :) Could you expand on why you think that? Thanks. - Bob --

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Leo Simons
Hey all, On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:29:46AM +0200, Mark Brouwer wrote: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > >On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: > > > >>What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this > >>proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction betw

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/22/06, Mark Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: > >> What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this >> proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction between the JCP >> process an

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Mark Brouwer
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction between the JCP process and the apache project. Eg is the apache project a (reference?) i

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Leo Simons wrote: * Mentor - Geir Magnusson Jr. Lately popular opinion seems to be that it'd be good if there were at least three mentors. Any others? Here, here! I' d be glad to be a mentor for this project, I've been following Jini closely and would l

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Dan Creswell
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction between the JCP process and the apache project. Eg is the apache project a (reference?) i

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/21/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leo Simons wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:15:38AM -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > > Let the records show that Geir is listed as initial committer too yet probably > doesn't work at sun, unless he switched companies again :) Hey, it's be

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 19:19, Leo Simons wrote: > What I'm missing is an idea of the interaction between jini.org and this > proposed new apache project, and an idea of the interaction between the JCP > process and the apache project. Eg is the apache project a (reference?) > implementation of

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Jim Hurley
On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:56 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: +1 (as in "will help"). From the text below and the comments in , I assume that the scope of the project will just be the core infrastructure. But you also mention "re

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 6/21/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We figured that we'd have people volunteering once this was proposed and people saw that there was only me. So please, volunteers for mentor wanted and very welcome! At least 3 more! I wouldn't consider myself fit to be a mentor,

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Leo Simons wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:15:38AM -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > > Let the records show that Geir is listed as initial committer too yet probably > doesn't work at sun, unless he switched companies again :) Hey, it's been 6 months already, but no, I'm still at Intel. :) > >>

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 10:15:38AM -0400, Jim Hurley wrote: > This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software > Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini > technology. Cool. All or some of it? > *Proposal for new project Jini* Looks good. What I'm missin

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 (as in "will help"). From the text below and the comments in , I assume that the scope of the project will just be the core infrastructure. But you also mention "related utilities and tools." Can you clarify a litt

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Hurley
On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini technology. It has broad backing from the Jini Community, and in

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-20 Thread Brian McCallister
On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini technology. It has broad backing from the Jini Community, and includes core developers from Sun Microsystems (original

Re: [Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 19 June 2006 22:15, Jim Hurley wrote: > This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software > Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini > technology. Splendid news, IMHO... +1 Cheers Niclas

[Proposal] Jini Project

2006-06-19 Thread Jim Hurley
This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini technology. It has broad backing from the Jini Community, and includes core developers from Sun Microsystems (original developer of the technology) as well as Communi

[Proposal] Jini project

2006-06-19 Thread Jim Hurley
This proposal seeks to create a project within the Apache Software Foundation to continue the development and advancement of Jini technology. It has broad backing from the Jini Community, and includes core developers from Sun Microsystems (original developer of the technology) as well as Community