Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Upayavira wrote: > Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: >> If this is right, the software grant must be received and accepted >> before setting up the infrastructure (svn, mailing lists, ...). > > Software grant must be received before code can be imported into SVN. > Other infra can be set up now (assumin

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Craig L Russell
I wonder (out loud) if we might recommend to change the format of the [RESULT] [VOTE] tally to simply summarize the binding votes, just for completeness. Clearly, the people who need to know who the binding votes are already know it, and it doesn't strike folks quite in the face if they are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Xavier Hanin
;William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy > Xavier Hanin wrote: > > > > I've just sent both an individual and a corporate CLA by fax. I was not > > sure the corporate CLA was necessary, but since J

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Upayavira
48:26 -0500 Von: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy Xavier Hanin wrote: I've just sent both an individual and a corporate CLA by fax. I was not sure the corporate CLA was necessary, but since Jayasoft is th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
lists, ...). Regards, Antoine Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:48:26 -0500 Von: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy > Xavier Hanin wrote: > > > > I've just sen

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 10/30/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have updated the incubator web site. The changes should be visible within an hour. Ivy should then be visible in the Projects bar to the right of the site. Great, I can see Ivy project page! I've tried to register to the mail

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hi, I have updated the incubator web site. The changes should be visible within an hour. Ivy should then be visible in the Projects bar to the right of the site. Regards, Antoine Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > Garrett Rooney wrote: > >> Ahh, sorry, my bad. If you're already an ASF Member you

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-26 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Garrett Rooney wrote: > Ahh, sorry, my bad. If you're already an ASF Member you should have > write access to the appropriate places in the incubator tree. The web > pages are all under /incubator/public, and the members group has write > access there. > True, I have added a file called ivy.xml,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/23/06, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I and all the Ivy team and user community hope you will consider this proposal carefully, and accept the project to join the foundation... Late but warm +1 (assuming a +1 can be *warm* ;-) -Bertrand

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-26 Thread Alex Karasulu
Stephane Bailliez wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: After several weeks of discussion with our user community [1] and with several Apache members, I am proud to present a proposal [2] for the open source project Ivy to join the Apache Incubator. I and all the Ivy team and user community hope you will

Re: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 10/25/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Garrett, I am not an Ivy contributor, but an ASF member and an ANT PMC member who has volunteered as champion and mentor for Ivy. I do not want to start checking in code, I just would like the possibility to start creating an ivy

Re: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Oct 2006 15:21:47 -0400 Von: "Garrett Rooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy > On 10/25/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Understood. Actually, I do not need to become a member of the inc

Re: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 10/25/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Understood. Actually, I do not need to become a member of the incubator PMC either, but I would very much like to have the svn and UNIX karma to edit and publish elements of the web site of ivy. Ok, slow down a bit. I'm all for enth

Re: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hello, Thanks very much Noel for moderating me in. Regards, Antoine Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:29:44 -0400 Von: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy > Antoine Levy-Lambert w

RE: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > I have sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but no > one has moderated me in yet. Instant Gratification much? No one else had gotten to it, but it got done by me this AM. Please note, that is NOT the same thing as requesting to join the Incubator PMC. --- N

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Leo Simons
Bill, dude, On Oct 25, 2006, at 3:14 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Would everyone agree with Leo that it is OK to start asking for infrastructural resources ? Nope, first off with the server disruption, there's really been only a day since the proposal was flo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 10/25/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > > I've just sent both an individual and a corporate CLA by fax. I was not > sure the corporate CLA was necessary, but since Jayasoft is the current > copyright holder of Ivy, I thought it might be required. Proba

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Xavier Hanin wrote: > > I've just sent both an individual and a corporate CLA by fax. I was not > sure the corporate CLA was necessary, but since Jayasoft is the current > copyright holder of Ivy, I thought it might be required. Probably a good idea; the point to a Corporate CLA is actually an agr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-25 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 10/25/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I suppose the Ivy committers need to send a CLA in any case ? Xavier, Maarten, maybe you should read this http://www.apache.org/dev/ and particularly this http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html. I've just sent both an i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > Bonsoir Bill, > > in this case, can you give me commit access in svn to > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk so that > I can start writing an Ivy site ? That would be Noel - but don't let it stop you... http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Bonsoir Bill, in this case, can you give me commit access in svn to http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk so that I can start writing an Ivy site ? Regards, Antoine William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > >> Would everyone agree with Leo that it is OK to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > Would everyone agree with Leo that it is OK to start asking for > infrastructural resources ? Nope, first off with the server disruption, there's really been only a day since the proposal was floated. 3 days is typical to let folks raise objections before concluding

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
> > Mentors, make sure to prod and poke Noel (Alternatively, buy him a > soft drink) until he gets you added to the incubator PMC. As ASF > members, you can already (and should) subscribe to incubator-private@ > in the meantime. > Hi, I have sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but no one has moder

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
+1 Antoine Xavier Hanin wrote: > Hi All, > > After several weeks of discussion with our user community [1] and with > several Apache members, I am proud to present a proposal [2] for the open > source project Ivy to join the Apache Incubator. > > I and all the Ivy team and user community hope you

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Stephane Bailliez
Xavier Hanin wrote: After several weeks of discussion with our user community [1] and with several Apache members, I am proud to present a proposal [2] for the open source project Ivy to join the Apache Incubator. I and all the Ivy team and user community hope you will consider this proposal ca

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:24 PM, david reid wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: it's a hint that the voter is a pmc member. *sigh* Really, no, seriously, you're telling me that the PMC can't be trusted to count votes from it's members and others it feels are qualified? It's surely easier to count t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-24 Thread Xavier Hanin
For your information, I've created a page for the proposal on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IvyProposal The proposal right now is the same as the one posted in the initial mail, with Stefan Bodewig added as Nominated Mentor. - Xavier On 10/24/06, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Jason van Zyl
Software Foundation. == Abstract == Ivy (http://www.jayasoft.org/ivy) is a java based tool for tracking, resolving and managing project dependencies. == Proposal == Ivy is a tool for managing (recording, tracking, resolving and reporting) project dependencies. It is characterized by the following

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > === Nominated Mentors === > Antoine Levy-Lambert > Stephane Baillez > Steve Loughran Due to the mail system outage the past weekend my email accepting a mentor role came a bit late. The final vote should include my name as well. Ste

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 10/23/06, david reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: > it's a hint that the voter is a pmc member. *sigh* Really, no, seriously, you're telling me that the PMC can't be trusted to count votes from it's members and others it feels are qualified? Wow... Seriously, pointin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 06:41, Niall Pemberton wrote: > It seems unclear to me whether this proposal is for a TLP or sub-project of > ant? > > I'm also not sure whether that even matters or something thats usually > considered at the Incubator proposal stage? It has been pointed out in past pro

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hello Niall, Niall Pemberton wrote: > It seems unclear to me whether this proposal is for a TLP or > sub-project of ant? > The Ant PMC will welcome Ivy after incubation if they want to. But Ivy can also choose to graduate as a TLP if the Ivy community prefers. All this is of course dependent upon

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Might be nice to leave "binding-ness" as an accounting detail for the > person running the vote, to get rid of the "my vote counts, yours > doesn't" thing that David pointed out. > > After all, if you get consensus, and it's all +1s. Bingo. That was David's point

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Might be nice to leave "binding-ness" as an accounting detail for the person running the vote, to get rid of the "my vote counts, yours doesn't" thing that David pointed out. After all, if you get consensus, and it's all +1s. geir Paul Fremantle wrote: David I think you are wrong. Bef

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Fremantle
David I think you are wrong. Before I saw that syntax I used to assume that I couldn't vote unless my vote was binding. I've seen this model encourage non-PMC members to vote (myself included). Paul On 10/24/06, david reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: > it's a hint that t

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
A thousand apologies.My bad. Am really sorry that i voted. Am really sorry that i added a word after my vote. is this grovelling enough or should i grovel a bit more? Get a life folks! -- dims On 10/23/06, david reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Davanum Srinivas wrote: > it's a hint that the

voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread david reid
Davanum Srinivas wrote: > it's a hint that the voter is a pmc member. *sigh* Really, no, seriously, you're telling me that the PMC can't be trusted to count votes from it's members and others it feels are qualified? Wow... Seriously, pointing out such differences just splits the community. "He

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Martin Cooper
On 10/23/06, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:50 PM, david reid wrote: > Erik Hatcher wrote: >> +1 (binding) > > Forgive my ignorance, but what does "+1 (binding)" mean? see here: Right, but this is a prop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
it's a hint that the voter is a pmc member. -- dims On 10/23/06, david reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Erik Hatcher wrote: > +1 (binding) Forgive my ignorance, but what does "+1 (binding)" mean? -- david http://feathercast.org/ ---

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:50 PM, david reid wrote: Erik Hatcher wrote: +1 (binding) Forgive my ignorance, but what does "+1 (binding)" mean? see here: - To unsubscribe

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread david reid
Erik Hatcher wrote: > +1 (binding) Forgive my ignorance, but what does "+1 (binding)" mean? -- david http://feathercast.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Niall Pemberton
or tracking, resolving and managing project dependencies. == Proposal == Ivy is a tool for managing (recording, tracking, resolving and reporting) project dependencies. It is characterized by the following: 1) flexibility and configurability - Ivy is essentially process agnostic and is not tied to any met

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Erik Hatcher
Software Foundation. == Abstract == Ivy (http://www.jayasoft.org/ivy) is a java based tool for tracking, resolving and managing project dependencies. == Proposal == Ivy is a tool for managing (recording, tracking, resolving and reporting) project dependencies. It is characterized by the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Xavier Hanin wrote: After several weeks of discussion with our user community [1] and with several Apache members, I am proud to present a proposal [2] for the open source project Ivy to join the Apache Incubator. Cool. Ivy is cool. Actually, it's not *that* cool

Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
roject within the Apache Software Foundation. == Abstract == Ivy (http://www.jayasoft.org/ivy) is a java based tool for tracking, resolving and managing project dependencies. == Proposal == Ivy is a tool for managing (recording, tracking, resolving and reporting) project dependencies. It is characteri

[PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-23 Thread Xavier Hanin
) is a java based tool for tracking, resolving and managing project dependencies. == Proposal == Ivy is a tool for managing (recording, tracking, resolving and reporting) project dependencies. It is characterized by the following: 1) flexibility and configurability - Ivy is essentially process