Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-28 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > Over the last couple of days, we have seen some good suggestions and support > for the initial proposal. For implementing the Remote Services, some > candidates have been identified (Axis2/C and SCA bindings in Tuscany). > > Before start

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-18 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 6 Oct 2010, at 9:52 , Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Marcel Offermans > wrote: >> ...As the champion, I'd be happy to be a mentor too. This would be my first >> time, so I probably >> need to formally join the Incubator PMC first?... > > Yes, as a member you jus

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > ...As the champion, I'd be happy to be a mentor too. This would be my first > time, so I probably > need to formally join the Incubator PMC first?... Yes, as a member you just need to ask at priv...@incubator.apache.org . -Bertrand -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-05 Thread Marcel Offermans
Over the last couple of days, we have seen some good suggestions and support for the initial proposal. For implementing the Remote Services, some candidates have been identified (Axis2/C and SCA bindings in Tuscany). Before starting a vote we need a couple of mentors to support the project while

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-05 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 5 Oct 2010, at 8:58 , David Bosschaert wrote: > Small correction: Universal OSGi is an RFP, not a whitepaper. In fact, > it's RFP 89. > I'm currently working to see if I can distribute this RFP to a wider audience. You are right and that would be nice! Greetings, Marcel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-04 Thread David Bosschaert
Small correction: Universal OSGi is an RFP, not a whitepaper. In fact, it's RFP 89. I'm currently working to see if I can distribute this RFP to a wider audience. Best regards, David On 4 October 2010 23:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: > On 24 Sep 2010, at 17:28 , Marcel Offermans wrote: > >> On 24

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-04 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 24 Sep 2010, at 17:28 , Marcel Offermans wrote: > On 24 Sep 2010, at 17:21 , Richard S. Hall wrote: > >> I think this is interesting. However, I'd like to point out that you may >> need to take care in how you position this. I believe the OSGi specs allow >> for compliant open source impleme

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-10-04 Thread damitha kumarage
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>> the CXF project is named as dependency to test the remote services >>> in combination with other java based OSGi implementations. >>> The C part should be in C, and Axis2/C seems a good candidate. But at the >>> moment we are also lookin

RE: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alexander Broekhuis wrote: > The SCA bindings do sound interesting, but one of the first goals is, > is to have a means to communicate with Java OSGi, and to have a light weight > implementation. I strongly suggest, then, that you work with the Tuscany folks and leverage their existing implementa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-28 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi David, Noel, OSGi Remote Services is all about developing in the OSGi programming > model with bundles and services and using the concepts there to define > a remote service. BTW the SCA concept of intents was actually added to the Remote > Services specifications, so there is a soft link ther

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-27 Thread David Bosschaert
Hi Noel, On 27 September 2010 18:18, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > So why aren't you looking at SCA?  From where I sit, you'd be best to work > with C bindings for SCA, and let the SCA adapters manage remote protocols. Exactly this discussion was held when the OSGi Remote Services (now chapter 13 of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-27 Thread Luciano Resende
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> the CXF project is named as dependency to test the remote services >> in combination with other java based OSGi implementations. >> The C part should be in C, and Axis2/C seems a good candidate. But at the >> moment we are also looking at

RE: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-27 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> the CXF project is named as dependency to test the remote services > in combination with other java based OSGi implementations. > The C part should be in C, and Axis2/C seems a good candidate. But at the > moment we are also looking at other, lighter, protocols to use. So why aren't you looking

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-27 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi Sanjiva, Sorry for the confusion, the CXF project is named as dependency to test the remote services in combination with other java based OSGi implementations. The C part should be in C, and Axis2/C seems a good candidate. But at the moment we are also looking at other, lighter, protocols to us

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-27 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Alexander, I'm confused about the remote API aspect- since Celix is in C why would you implement the remote API in Java with CXF? Why wouldn't you use Axis2/C? Sanjiva. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to announce the following proposal as a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-26 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 (non-binding) Good project IMO, we need more project in languages other than Java :). On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > Hello Richard, > > On 24 Sep 2010, at 17:21 , Richard S. Hall wrote: > >> I think this is interesting. However, I'd like to point out that you may

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-24 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Richard, On 24 Sep 2010, at 17:21 , Richard S. Hall wrote: > I think this is interesting. However, I'd like to point out that you may need > to take care in how you position this. I believe the OSGi specs allow for > compliant open source implementations, but it is unlikely this implement

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-24 Thread Richard S. Hall
I think this is interesting. However, I'd like to point out that you may need to take care in how you position this. I believe the OSGi specs allow for compliant open source implementations, but it is unlikely this implementation will ever be fully compliant. So, you'd probably be best to just

Re: [PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-24 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hello, A small error was left in the proposal: The mailing lists should be: - celix-dev - celix-private instead of cosgi-* On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to announce the following proposal as a new incubator > project. > Abstract > > Cel

[PROPOSAL] Celix to enter the Incubator

2010-09-24 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hello, I would like to announce the following proposal as a new incubator project. Abstract Celix is a OSGi like implementation in C with a distinct focus on interoperability between Java-OSGi and Celix. Proposal Celix will be an implementation of the OSGi specification adapted to C. It will fo