Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-26 Thread Kevan Miller
On Oct 25, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 10/25/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only rea

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 10/25/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > > Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator > > acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright > > infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. > > You me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > >> Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator >> acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright >> infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. >> > > You mean trademark? :-) > Noel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/25/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the > capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... Same here, Apache RAT sounds good to me. -Bertrand - T

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Craig L Russell
Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... But in the end, I'll defer to the authors. Craig On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias Wessen

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/25/07, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RATify? > > that sounds cool(er) ;) > > > > > Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) > > > > > > On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman <[EM

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator > acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright > infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean trademark? :-) --- Noel --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 10/25/07, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RATify? that sounds cool(er) ;) > > Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) > > > On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that > > > there are existing o

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread sebb
RATify? Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that > > there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as > > commercial software containing RAT in t

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that > there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as > commercial software containing RAT in their name. aRATicate, known as RAT for short? ;-) --- Noel --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 10/25/07, Kevan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anybody give me guidance on how unique names need to be? For My take on it (IANAL) is that uniqueness doesn't matter. In fact, that's why there's already N>1 projects named "Composer" as you noted in your example. Project name uniq

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Kevan Miller
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) the name "RAT" has been discussed previously - see http://m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread James Carman
How about ErroRat, a play on Ararat? On 10/24/07, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like plain rat, and since rat is common word I doubt we have to > worry about trademark violations. I also don't confuse it with any > other projects in the java space.. so I think it's ok. > > On 10/23

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 03:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > before i call for a VOTE. I think you can go ahead with RAT. Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL P

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Hiram Chirino
I like plain rat, and since rat is common word I doubt we have to worry about trademark violations. I also don't confuse it with any other projects in the java space.. so I think it's ok. On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/24/07, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > > On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Mentors > >> -- > >> > >> * Yoav Shapira > >> * Ross Gardler > >> > >> I would prefer me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mentors -- * Yoav Shapira * Ross Gardler I would prefer mentors who have not been involved with RAT. This will allow a more objective perspective. I doub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/24/07, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll volunteer...having done lot's of releases for Geronimo I have an > affinity for the little beast. great :-) thanks - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I'll volunteer...having done lot's of releases for Geronimo I have an affinity for the little beast. On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mentors -- * Yoav Shapira * Ross Gardler I would p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mentors > -- > > * Yoav Shapira > * Ross Gardler > > I would prefer mentors who have not been involved with RAT. This will > allow a more objective perspective. I doubt that supervision will be > too great a burden.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a > while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call > for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) Looks like a solid proposal to me! As far as the nam

[PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) the name "RAT" has been discussed previously - see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200710.mbox