Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-09-04 Thread Vasily Zakharov
+1 from me also! Mikhail Fursov gmail.com> writes: > > Used OpenMeetings yesterday for our local video web conference with 3 > sites online . It worked flawlessly. > > +1 from me! > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-un

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-09-02 Thread Yegor Kozlov
+1 from me. I signed up as a mentor and added my name in the proposal. There is a potential synergy with Apache POI and ODFToolkit projects. Openmeetings has a functionality to import office documents and display the thumbnails. Currently it is implemented via a chained transformation first into

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-29 Thread Elena
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-25 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I've been in touch with Sebastian and Alexei and I am willing to champion the proposal. Just added myself to the corresponding section on the Wiki. I think we may still need to refine / update the proposal a bit before we can start the vote. But IMO we are very close to this point. The technolog

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-16 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Thanks for the input Ross, well I am confident we will find some Champion when some of the Apache Members have some more time. Seems like there is a lot of traffic at the moment with the ODF incubation. Meanwhile we of course welcome any comments how we can apply already our processes aligned wit

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-16 Thread Ross Gardler
2011/8/11 seba.wag...@gmail.com : > Great, > > I have updated the Proposal to be more clear on the external dependencies > and possibilities to move away from them: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal#External_Dependencies Thanks for addressing these concerns and signposting po

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-12 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
okay, well those specs from the 08.11.2011 :) Really cutting edge information: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/webrtc.html However there is hardly any information about some really (and already industry standard features): - Echo Cancellation - Buffering and behaviour in low ban

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-12 Thread Scott Wilson
On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:22, seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > Yes, > > the Java Servlet Spec 3.0 also contains methods for push mechanisms. We > could already use similar technologies for pushing data packets around. > > However there is zero support for *real* streaming in the JavaScript world. > R

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-12 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Yes, the Java Servlet Spec 3.0 also contains methods for push mechanisms. We could already use similar technologies for pushing data packets around. However there is zero support for *real* streaming in the JavaScript world. RTMP is not just about pushing some messages around, it is about streami

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-11 Thread Kalle Korhonen
2011/8/11 seba.wag...@gmail.com : > I have updated the Proposal to be more clear on the external dependencies > and possibilities to move away from them: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal#External_Dependencies >From the sidelines, WebSockets would seem like a strong contender

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-11 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Great, I have updated the Proposal to be more clear on the external dependencies and possibilities to move away from them: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal#External_Dependencies Sebastian 2011/8/11 Jim Jagielski > I've signed up for Mentor, in case we go ahead... > On Jul

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
I've signed up for Mentor, in case we go ahead... On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:46 AM, dsh wrote: > Sebastian and Alexei, > > your are welcome! Btw, here is my +1 > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Alexei Fedotov > wrote: >> Daniel, >> Thank you for an excellent report! >> >> -- >> With best regards

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 1 August 2011 11:18, seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > the Serlvet Container is Red5 (which is a modified Tomcat Servlet > Container), you cannot run OpenMeetings without it. > > For building the software, OpenMeetings implements some of the API > Interfaces of the Red5-Server. So you need at leas

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-01 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Hi Ross, the Serlvet Container is Red5 (which is a modified Tomcat Servlet Container), you cannot run OpenMeetings without it. For building the software, OpenMeetings implements some of the API Interfaces of the Red5-Server. So you need at least the red5.jar available at build time in order to pr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-01 Thread Ross Gardler
Great to see this proposal coming back again. If I remember correctly there was some concern about whether the application could reasonably expect to be made to tun without (L)GPL dependencies. It's clear that you've already done a fair amount of work to remove these dependencies, but the main sti

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-08-01 Thread Nellya Udovichenko
+1 from me too Mikhail Fursov gmail.com> writes: > > Used OpenMeetings yesterday for our local video web conference with 3 > sites online . It worked flawlessly. > > +1 from me! > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-29 Thread dsh
Sebastian and Alexei, your are welcome! Btw, here is my +1 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > Daniel, > Thank you for an excellent report! > > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-29 Thread dsh
Sebastian, btw, I noticed that the JNLP app remains open after you closed the browser. That's probably because the main browser app and the JNLP app are not tightly coupled if it comes to even notivication such as a browser close even (it's been a will since I did Java webstart apps the last time

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-29 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Daniel, Thank you for an excellent report! -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:20 PM, dsh wrote: > Hi, > > please find my feedback below: > > OS X Lion: > > * tested with: > ** Firefox

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-29 Thread Alexei Zakharov
+1 from me Mikhail Fursov gmail.com> writes: > > Used OpenMeetings yesterday for our local video web conference with 3 > sites online . It worked flawlessly. > > +1 from me! > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr..

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-29 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
@Daniel thanks for the excellent & extended testing on your host environments. That the screensharing does not close on the clients after the publisher hit the *stop* is definitly a bug that we did already fix in previous versions. The check to do not start the ScreenSharing Application several t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread Pavel Rebriy
+1 from me too! Mikhail Fursov gmail.com> writes: > > Used OpenMeetings yesterday for our local video web conference with 3 > sites online . It worked flawlessly. > > +1 from me! > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread dsh
Amendment: If using the FreeBSD Linuxulator together with the Adobe Flash Player 11b1 and OpenJDK 6, Openmeetings works on PCBSD :) PS: Observation on Win XP SP3 with Symantec Client Firewall - The signup/connect attempt has been catched by the firewall software. Cheers Daniel On Thu, Jul 28, 20

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread dsh
Hi, please find my feedback below: OS X Lion: * tested with: ** Firefox 5.0.1 and Adobe Flash Player 10.3 ** Safari 5.1 and Adobe Flash Player 10.3 * Observations: ** Openmeetings did not work with Firefox/Safari if using a webcam/mic cause on the adobe flash player settings dialog it was not po

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread Vasili
Hi! I used it for 90 participants. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread Mikhail Fursov
Used OpenMeetings yesterday for our local video web conference with 3 sites online . It worked flawlessly. +1 from me! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-28 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Hi Mohammed, thanks for your feedback. About your requests: 1. You can create your own room 3 ways at the moment: You have the personal rooms on the dashboard, you can create events using the calendar (every event has a conference room assigned) or you can send private messages to otherusers and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-27 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > Mohammad, > > Any impressions to share? Have you occasionally faced any bugs? 1- I didn't find a way to create my own rooms ? Maybe I missed it some where, but I didn't find it :). 2- When I tried it with a colleague of mine and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-27 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Mohammad, Any impressions to share? Have you occasionally faced any bugs? -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 2011/7/25 Mohammad Nour El-Din : > +1 for the proposal > > I tried it out. It looks very promising :)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-26 Thread Alexei Fedotov
+1 Jim, folks, as for help, we are looking for Apache member who may become a project champion. -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 2011/7/23 Jim Jagielski : > V. cool. Big +1 > > Let me know how I can help. > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-25 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
*And a special video channel where we can see the faces of those that have to get up in the middle of the night to join the meeting.* => :D Should be no problem if you run the restricted roomtype. Or you record and replay it later on. Sebastian 2011/7/25 Jeremias Maerki : > On 21.07.2011 15:40:45

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-25 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 21.07.2011 15:40:45 seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. > > Full Proposal: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal > > Quick summary: > OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into > educational or b

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-25 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 for the proposal I tried it out. It looks very promising :). 2011/7/25 seba.wag...@gmail.com : > Hi, > > thanks for your feedback! > @Scott: I think so too. Synchrious communication could become an > standard feature of Social Networking Platforms. Lets see if there is > an API in Rave for int

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-25 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
Hi, thanks for your feedback! @Scott: I think so too. Synchrious communication could become an standard feature of Social Networking Platforms. Lets see if there is an API in Rave for integration. Sebastian 2011/7/23 Maurizio Cucchiara : > Good idea!!! I had the opportunity to try OM, nice tool!

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-23 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
Good idea!!! I had the opportunity to try OM, nice tool! Maurizio Cucchiara Il giorno 23/lug/2011 17.57, "Scott Wilson" ha scritto: > Fantastic proposal. It would be even more fantastic to link it up with Rave and Wookie! > > +1 (non-binding) > > S > > On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Jim Jagielski wro

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-23 Thread Scott Wilson
Fantastic proposal. It would be even more fantastic to link it up with Rave and Wookie! +1 (non-binding) S On 23 Jul 2011, at 16:25, Jim Jagielski wrote: > V. cool. Big +1 > > Let me know how I can help. > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > >> We would like to pro

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
V. cool. Big +1 Let me know how I can help. On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:40 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: > We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. > > Full Proposal: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal > > Quick summary: > OpenMeetings is Web Confe

[PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2011-07-21 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com
We would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. Full Proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Quick summary: OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions in different room-t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-11-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Just as a point of interest, I just completed a test meeting using OpenMeetings across three sites using the demo server. I was suitably impressed by the project. It has a few annoying limitations, but as an online meeting tool it is very good. to the extent that I will almost certainly be install

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-11-03 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Noel, Regarding Theora codec, I have checked the page [1]. Currently, there are no products which successfully use the codec for video communication. Video-phone encodes and decodes the stream in real-time, adopts the quality with regard to network conditions (e.g. lost packet rate) and tries to mi

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-11-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Alexei Fedotov wrote: > I see two long-term possibilities for synergy. > 1. BlueSky can integrate browser pannel in their client to handle a > whiteboard. In this case the code for whiteboard can be re-used in > both projects. > 2. They promise to get rid from mplayer and ffmpeg dependencies. If

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-31 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Niclas, thanks for an answer about LGPL! Noel, Thanks for a link to BlueSky! Openmeetings is used into Moodle and Dokeos e-learning systems - communication always helps education. The main difference with BlueSky is that BlueSky has a standalone client, and not the browser-based one. I see two lo

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sounds very interesting. In addition to the existing question related to licening, can you also comment on the problem domain overlap with BlueSky? It seems to me that there might be good synergies. --- Noel - To unsub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
2009/10/29 Alexei Fedotov : > 1. Anyone can distribute GPL-licensed binary, or LGPL-licensed > library. The virus problems begin when you try to modify the source of > the product. This always requires proper attributions in COPYRIGHT > file, but anyway. Correct (to a point), see separate mail.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
2009/10/29 Alexei Fedotov : > How does LGPL place restrictions on larger works? The main issue is section 6 in LGPL, namely we would have to ensure that downstream users are allowed to reverse engineer the "derived works". So what does that really mean? LGPL defines linking to it with dynamic la

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-29 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Niclas, Thanks for a link [1]! It reads: > The LGPL is ineligible primarily due to the restrictions it places on larger > works Well, I believe if lawyers said that, they have enough attribution. Though I always thought that LGPL is GPL limited to the library scope. How does LGPL place rest

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-29 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Martin, I may fail to understand Paul's question, indeed. Let me give my best try to answer to your questions. > Is it not true that OpenMeetings requires Red5 in order to function properly? True. The Openmeetings requires Red5 to function properly. > So that, if we cannot distribute Red5 a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Sebastian Wagner wrote: > For running the application we also use > hibernate. For Hibernate, try to convert the application to use the JPA API instead, then you can ship with OpenJPA from Apache and allow users to use Hibernate instead if they want. Cheers --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Sebastian Wagner wrote: > Is a LGPL Library a general Issue? For running the application we also use > hibernate. > Spring, Apache Batik and Apache Mina are also used, but these are all > already Apache Licenses projects. Hibernate is LGPL. Is this a conflict? Fo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Wagner
hi, openmeetings _can_ be distributed without red5. Red5 acts like Tomcat (actually it is a modified Tomcat). And openmeetings is a webapp inside this container. For easy usage and installation we distribute it as one package, but its still clear the its red5 + openmeetings. Is a LGPL Library a g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Leif Hedstrom
On 10/28/2009 08:19 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: The better thing is that Adobe finally opened RTMP specification [1]. The specification license prohibits unintended use of rtmp for for violating digital protection (this somehow relates to new GPL v.3 features) and intercepting video, othewise it is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Cooper
2009/10/28 Alexei Fedotov : > Hello Paul, > Thanks for a good question! > > Openmeetings is red5 application which is very close to ordinary web > application. AFAIU, the last change by Sebastian makes them even > closer by implementing ".war" deployment. The code of the projects > does not overlap

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Ian Boston
On 28 Oct 2009, at 14:18, Sebastian Wagner wrote: hi, OpenLaszlo is used for compiling the Client. You don't need it to run the Application. So it is not needed to re-destribute OpenLaszlo. It is linked into the Application as Library, when you have compiled the code you can remove OpenL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Ian, Thanks for raising questions. As for OpenLaszlo, I cannot say much. Some Apache projects use Microsoft compiler, that's legal. I believe it is quite doable to build OpenLaszlo completely on Apache stack, but that project has their own authors. As for Red5, the situation is good and bec

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastian Wagner
hi, OpenLaszlo is used for compiling the Client. You don't need it to run the Application. So it is not needed to re-destribute OpenLaszlo. It is linked into the Application as Library, when you have compiled the code you can remove OpenLaszlo's Framework. Red5 does no transcoding. That is why it

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ian Boston wrote: > Also, are there any problems between Red5 and Adobe in terms of patents on > the Flash Media Server protocols. IIRC Adobe have some patents in this area > but I have no idea if they are relevant and enforceable or would want to > enforce them a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Ian Boston
Openmeetings looks very interesting. I notice Red5, and see Paul Querna asked a question. I have 2 questions for my own education more than anything, What's the status of OpenLazlo wrt Apache Projects? I see it has a long list of dependencies with all sorts of licenses [1] but have no ide

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Nick, There is a "Not a member" button [1] on the first page to get a free account. If you doesn't mind Russian field names during registration you can try [2] as a localization example. [1] http://www.openmeetings.de/ [2] http://www.telebridge.ru/ On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Nick Kew

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-28 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Hello Paul, Thanks for a good question! Openmeetings is red5 application which is very close to ordinary web application. AFAIU, the last change by Sebastian makes them even closer by implementing ".war" deployment. The code of the projects does not overlap in any way, and projects are connected v

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-27 Thread Nick Kew
On 27 Oct 2009, at 11:22, Sebastian Wagner wrote: hi, we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. Full Proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Wow, two new proposals in a day! Would be good to get a feeling for what this is. Is www.openmeet

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Querna
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Sebastian Wagner wrote: > hi, > > we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. > > Full Proposal: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal > > Quick summary: > OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into educat

[PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing

2009-10-27 Thread Sebastian Wagner
hi, we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. Full Proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Quick summary: OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions in different r