Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-09 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
drian Zbarcea [mailto:hzbar...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:49 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator I find the proposal interesting too. I gave it a lot of though and I am considering getting involved as well. I have a que

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Kevin Kluge
work than the hardware acquisition, and I believe this is a few months away. -kevin > -Original Message- > From: Hadrian Zbarcea [mailto:hzbar...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:49 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Cloud

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
I find the proposal interesting too. I gave it a lot of though and I am considering getting involved as well. I have a question however for the proponents and supporters of the project. What makes this project different than (almost) all the other ASF projects is that it has a high(er) barrier

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
> These touch up changes pretty much complete the proposal and we're ready to kick off a [VOTE] thread. Thoughts? +1 Cheers, Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Apr 8, 2012 4:56 AM, "Alex Karasulu" wrote: >... > > > > I believe the proposal is now complete, pending additional feedback. > > These touch up changes pretty much complete the proposal and we're ready to > kick off a [VOTE] thread. Thoughts? +1 Discussion has been mellow. Feedback was tweak

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
012 4:53 PM > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > I made a couple of minor edits. > > > > A few more suggestions... >

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-06 Thread Kevin Kluge
g > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator > > Hi Kevin, > > I made a couple of minor edits. > > A few more suggestions... > > I think you could drop the last sentence of the rationale. The ASF doesn't > have any strategic goals to cover

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-06 Thread Brett Porter
Hi Kevin, I made a couple of minor edits. A few more suggestions... I think you could drop the last sentence of the rationale. The ASF doesn't have any strategic goals to cover particular technology areas. Th alignment section looks fine as is, but it's not strictly necessary to speculate on

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-05 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > I updated the proposal at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal. I have included > the embedded source dependencies, binary dependencies, and contributor > e-mail addresses. There are some open questions in the dependencie

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kluge
I updated the proposal at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal. I have included the embedded source dependencies, binary dependencies, and contributor e-mail addresses. There are some open questions in the dependencies (e.g., treatment of dependencies that have no discernible

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kluge
Leo, thanks for the feedback, I've put a few replies in line. -Original Message- From: Leo Simons [mailto:m...@leosimons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:31 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator On Tue, Apr 3, 20

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > > The proposal looks good. I'm excited that the community is looking to > > grow at the ASF. I'm working on similar technology in my day job at IBM > > and am interested in getting

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > The proposal looks good. I'm excited that the community is looking to > grow at the ASF. I'm working on similar technology in my day job at IBM > and am interested in getting involved. Happy to mentor if you need, > although, it has quite

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Matt Hogstrom
The proposal looks good. I'm excited that the community is looking to grow at the ASF. I'm working on similar technology in my day job at IBM and am interested in getting involved. Happy to mentor if you need, although, it has quite a large list now as I look at the Wiki. Matt Hogstrom m...

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > The draft proposal document is available at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal. Looks great! Also looks like you've got plenty of interest, so that's also great :-) Some random thoughts: * It reads like you have some inter

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din < > nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi... >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Martijn Dashorst < >> martijn.dasho...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM,

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din < nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi... > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Martijn Dashorst < > martijn.dasho...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Kluge > > wrote: > > > Citrix is pursuing patents based on prio

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Kluge > wrote: > > Citrix is pursuing patents based on prior CloudStack work and expects to > continue to do > > so in the future. Citrix is getting these patents to protect the > CloudStack u

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > On 04/04/2012, at 3:17 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > We would like to propose Clou

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > Citrix is pursuing patents based on prior CloudStack work and expects to > continue to do > so in the future.  Citrix is getting these patents to protect the CloudStack > user community. > Consider the case where some other entity states that

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hello, Looks to be an interesting project!. I'd like to help so I have added myself as a mentor. 2012/4/3 Kevin Kluge : > Hi All, > > We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. > > CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS > cloud. I

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
[mailto:da...@cloudstack.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On T

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 21:37, David Nalley wrote: >... > For > better or worse I don't perceive ASF having the desire to or currently > the ability to deal with filing for patents, or even if they would be > entitled to in this situation. I'm not sure that we have a *specific* policy against the

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
ral@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator > > Hi Kevin, > > On 04/04/2012, at 3:17 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. > > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >>> Plan"...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even >>> compatible with ALv2? >>> >> >> Speaking only for myself, Sec

Re: [INFRA] Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
Inline reply Please don't take my answers as binding, just trying to provide a bit more information. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I'll note the request to move over websites. There are three to discuss. > > - cloudstack.org - This site has a login. There may be the impact

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Thanks, Brett. We appreciate your help. -kevin -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:28 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator Hi Kevin

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Brett Porter
Hi Kevin, On 04/04/2012, at 3:17 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: > Hi All, > > We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. > > CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS > cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator funct

[INFRA] Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Dave Fisher
I'll note the request to move over websites. There are three to discuss. - cloudstack.org - This site has a login. There may be the impact of supporting a set of user registrations. How many users? Are user registrations important? - docs.cloudbase.org - This site uses MindTouch TCS[1] Is this s

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
esday, April 3, 2012 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator > >On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >>> Plan"...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: >> Plan"...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even >> compatible with ALv2? >> > > Speaking only for myself, Section 3 of ALv2 seems to address patents > held by contributors.

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Plan"...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even > compatible with ALv2? > Speaking only for myself, Section 3 of ALv2 seems to address patents held by contributors. Or am I misunderstanding the concern around patents? --David

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Donald Whytock
Regarding the section "Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan"...What do the patents cover/restrict? Is a patent even compatible with ALv2? Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For add

[PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Hi All, We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator functions and a web UI for user and administrator access. Administrators c