Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-19 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 15 May 07, at 9:57 AM 15 May 07, Shane Isbell wrote: Just to clarify, the implementation is now as follows: NMaven uses the default repo format remotely and then transforms locally; this is the most pragmatic approach, and I don't have any immediate concerns. The problem, however, is tha

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Shane Isbell
Hi Noel, Correct, using a URI does not require a specific implementation; but in today's environment, if someone needs a different repo format, they get one of two responses: 1) create your own repo that uses a different repo format; or 2) use the same repo format but transform the artifact names

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/15/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although HTTP GET with a URL may qualify as an API, under its > current form its really implementation (file-system) specific. What makes it implementation specific? You can't store the files in a DB, and map the URI to the resource? Isn

RE: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Although HTTP GET with a URL may qualify as an API, under its > current form its really implementation (file-system) specific. What makes it implementation specific? You can't store the files in a DB, and map the URI to the resource? Isn't it really a URI, specifying the package name and versi

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Shane Isbell
Just to clarify, the implementation is now as follows: NMaven uses the default repo format remotely and then transforms locally; this is the most pragmatic approach, and I don't have any immediate concerns. The problem, however, is that we are exposing the internal schema to the client; this creat

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 9:13 PM 6 May 07, Carlos Sanchez wrote: I didn't have a chance to talk about this with Shane but the idea in the end is to make the repository agnostic on how things are stored and how the client uses them. Right now is a simple directory, but could be a database with a web fron

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 8:56 PM 6 May 07, Daniel Kulp wrote: Shane, Honestly, it sounds like the NMaven stuff will need a complete new set of repositories for NMaven artifacts. There isn't any way, IMO, that the repo layout can change for the normal maven 1 and maven 2 repositories. There

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 11:11 AM 6 May 07, Shane Isbell wrote: [ ] use standard repositories [ x ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator My reasons are as follows: First, NMaven does not follow the standard repo layout; second, the repository layout structure is still in a state

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-08 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/7/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is already a concern for existing projects coming from outside >> Apache. It is completely and easily possible to become dependent on >> both org.apac

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1 Noel. Synapse used to have org.apache.synapse.* as the package, but synapse-incubating-core-0.xx.jar as the JAR file. I'm +1 for using the ordinary repository. Paul On 5/8/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > I agree there is no reason to force org.a

RE: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > I agree there is no reason to force org.apache.incubating.wicket. to be > renamed after graduation to org.apache.wicket. Agreed, but why is anyone even raising the issue? We don't require incubator to be part of the Java package name, just in distribution file syst

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is already a concern for existing projects coming from outside >> Apache. It is completely and easily possible to become dependent on >> both org.apache.wicket/wicket-1.3.0-incubating-beta1.jar and >> wicket/wic

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-07 Thread Leo Simons
On May 6, 2007, at 1:57 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones I don't understand the ques

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Carlos Sanchez
I didn't have a chance to talk about this with Shane but the idea in the end is to make the repository agnostic on how things are stored and how the client uses them. Right now is a simple directory, but could be a database with a web front end or anything like that. It shouldn't matter how NMaven

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
Shane, Honestly, it sounds like the NMaven stuff will need a complete new set of repositories for NMaven artifacts. There isn't any way, IMO, that the repo layout can change for the normal maven 1 and maven 2 repositories. Incubator or repo1.maven.org is relatively irrelevant in that rega

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Craig L Russell
[X ] use standard repositories [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator On May 6, 2007, at 4:57 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories u

RE: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jason, Would you please address Shane's issues? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/6/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6 May 07, at 4:57 AM 6 May 07, robert burrell donkin wrote: > incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ > dist > > AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories > under /www.apache.org/dist/in

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Shane Isbell
[ ] use standard repositories [ x ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator My reasons are as follows: First, NMaven does not follow the standard repo layout; second, the repository layout structure is still in a state of flux, meaning that there is a need for potentially chang

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 May 07, at 4:57 AM 6 May 07, robert burrell donkin wrote: incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/ dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones of course, staging f

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
[ x ] use standard repositories [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator Eelco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/6/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. > I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either > incubator or incubating.(ex: 2.0-incubator, 1.3-incuba

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either incubator or incubating.(ex: 2.0-incubator, 1.3-incubating, etc..) Putting it in the group ID causes a MUCH larger

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Xavier Hanin
[ X ] use standard repositories On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:57, robert burrell donkin wrote: > [ X ] use standard repositories > [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incuba

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Sunday 06 May 2007 07:57, robert burrell donkin wrote: > [ X ] use standard repositories > [ ] relocate repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator I disagree with setting the groupId to org.apache.incubator.. I greatly prefer requiring a version string that includes either incubator

Re: [POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] use standard repositories I would say that podlings using maven would be required to set their project's group id to org.apache.incubator., and possibly even extend an incubator parent pom. This way the podling distributables are

[POLL] Incubator Maven Repository

2007-05-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
incubator distributions need to be stored under /www/www.apache.org/dist AFACT there are two reasonable options: either create repositories under /www.apache.org/dist/incubator or use the standard maven ones of course, staging for the purpose of release verification would continue to happen unde