Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/8/12 11:36 AM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > On Jun 8, 2012 2:33 PM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >>> >>> The individual involved is willing to >>> allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how > formal >>> the permission refer

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Jun 8, 2012 2:33 PM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > The individual involved is willing to > > allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how formal > > the permission referred to in [1] must be. > > > > [1] http://www.apache.

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > The individual involved is willing to > allow the copyright to be moved, and we asked here to find out how formal > the permission referred to in [1] must be. > > [1] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html Would it be possible for the in

RE: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:sa3r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 09:07 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: flex-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: &

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/8/12 9:07 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen > wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >>> I fear we are miscommunicating again. >>> Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices >>> or permit others to (r

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> I fear we are miscommunicating again. >> Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices >> or permit others to (re)move them on the owner's behalf. > > Interesting

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-08 Thread Kalle Korhonen
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > I fear we are miscommunicating again. > Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices > or permit others to (re)move them on the owner's behalf. Interesting, why is that? Is it so by the law? Kalle ---

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Roy T. Fielding
I fear we are miscommunicating again. Only the copyright owner is allowed to (re)move copyright notices or permit others to (re)move them on the owner's behalf. Jeff just needs to give the project permission -- one simple email message to the list is enough -- and then anyone at Apache can move th

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > So based on my understanding from your description: yeah. We don't > need anything from Jeff. Since we tend to be extra conservative around here whenever we can and it isn't too inconvenient, we generally ask that an employee of said company c

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 3:33 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his >>> wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. >> >> Ah

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his >> wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. > > Ah, so there's no legal requirement to deal with here.

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 6/7/12 3:00 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: >>> "Should a project move non-ASF copyright notices from Apache source files to >>> the NOTICE file? >>> No. If the copyright owner is still involved with the project, they should >>> move the notice thems

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 3:00 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: >> "Should a project move non-ASF copyright notices from Apache source files to >> the NOTICE file? >> No. If the copyright owner is still involved with the project, they should >> move the notice themselves or permit us to do so..." > > That policy exi

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Reddin
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Jeff doesn't have to do it himself: that's just deference to his > wishes and ensuring that we don't pre-suppose or get them wrong. Ah, so there's no legal requirement to deal with here. Adobe cleared that up with the software grant? Thanks, Gr

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 6/7/12 1:58 PM, "Greg Reddin" wrote: > >> Hi Incubator, >> >> See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do >> here. >> >> I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the >> full situation is. P

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/7/12 1:58 PM, "Greg Reddin" wrote: > Hi Incubator, > > See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. > > I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the > full situation is. Perhaps Alex can clarify if needed. Jeff was an employee of

Re: [MENTORS] Third Party source

2012-06-07 Thread Greg Reddin
Hi Incubator, See the email below from Alex Harui. I need help figuring out what to do here. I'm not sure if Jeff was ever an employee of Macromedia or what the full situation is. Perhaps Alex can clarify if needed. Essentially, we wanted to offer Jeff commit rights to make the modification as s