On 6 June 2011 18:09, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 6 juin 11 à 19:00, Ian Lynch a écrit :
>
> Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF member
>> but I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in the past so I
>> care what happens. The fact is the software grant i
On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:08, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Phillip Rhodes
> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's say we persuaded the good guys at Apache that this is a ploy to
>>> manipulate them and they reject the code. Where then will it go? If
>>> conspiracy is right it definitely won't b
Hi Greg, Hi Sam,
Sam Ruby wrote on 2011-06-06 19.04:
The software grant was received on 31 May. It has no conditions
beyond what exists in the standard software grant that we receive from
everybody:
thanks for clarifying. That indeed helps a lot to understand some things
for me.
Florian
On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:00, Ian Lynch wrote:
> what happens. The fact is the software grant is made. My understanding is
> that if the code goes into the incubator it does not even guarantee it will
> emerge as a marketable product.
...
> OTOH it might thrive and take over the desktop office world (I
Hi,
Le 6 juin 11 à 19:00, Ian Lynch a écrit :
Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF
member but I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in
the past so I care what happens. The fact is the software grant is
made. My understanding is that if the code g
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
>
> > Let's say we persuaded the good guys at Apache that this is a ploy to
> > manipulate them and they reject the code. Where then will it go? If
> > conspiracy is right it definitely won't be to TDF and it could be to
> > somewhere a lot mor
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:46, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-06 18.36:
>...
>> The software grant is a "done deal". I happen to believe the proposal
>> will be accepted, but it is not a "done deal".
>
> Ah, okay - so the software grant exists independent from the incubati
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF member but
> I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in the past so I care
> what happens. The fact is the software grant is made. My understanding is
> that if the co
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
>
>> The software grant is a "done deal". I happen to believe the proposal
>> will be accepted, but it is not a "done deal".
>
> Ah, okay - so the software grant exists independent from the incubation
> result?
The software grant was rec
Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF member but
I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in the past so I care
what happens. The fact is the software grant is made. My understanding is
that if the code goes into the incubator it does not even guarantee it wi
On 6/6/11 6:47 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Emmanuel Lecharny wrote on 2011-06-06 18.40:
Should The ASF made responsible for every comments made on the Internet
by people who are not even remotely connected to The ASF ?
no, and I didn't say that. Again, I just wanted to point out why
p
fwiw, Bob Sutor is not a committer or on the incubator PMC or a member
of the ASF [1]. Here's the list of folks on the incubator PMC who will
vote on the proposal [2]
[1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html
[2] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc
On Mon, Ju
Hi,
Emmanuel Lecharny wrote on 2011-06-06 18.40:
Should The ASF made responsible for every comments made on the Internet
by people who are not even remotely connected to The ASF ?
no, and I didn't say that. Again, I just wanted to point out why people
believe things as we heard before. Don't
Hi Greg,
Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-06 18.36:
I'll repeat what Jim said: how do you think IBM can force us to take
the project? Bob can say whatever he'd like on his blog.
it wasn't me who stated that, so don't ask me. :-)
I stated with my previous mail that I do *not* think you are forced.
On 6/6/11 6:17 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Jim,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 18.06:
The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it
> crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to
force
> The Apache Foundation to take the project.
>
How?
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:17, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 18.06:
>>>
>>> The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it
>>> > crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to force
>>> > The Apache Foundation
Hi Jim,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 18.06:
The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it
> crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to force
> The Apache Foundation to take the project.
>
How?
I am *not* saying you would be influenced or f
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