Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

> I'll be honest, I have no idea why they > think they have to do it, but they do it. I suspect it is because projects are motivated to graduate and believe that one or more people on the IPMC with -1 their graduation if they do not complete the model and put a check mark in every box. I suspect

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

Hi Bertrand, On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:54 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi John, > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > ...Its unfair for us to put some stake in the ground expecting podlings > to > > match up 100% on the questions. Many o

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Jim Apple wrote: > ...I think the current Model has a number of vague statements that are > unlikely to be interpreted consistently without clarification. For > instance "The project is open and honest about the quality of its > code.".. That's a good example where

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:26 AM Shane Curcuru wrote: > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote on 9/4/17 4:54 AM: > > Hi John, > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > >> ...Its unfair for us to put some stake in the ground expecting podlings > to > >> match up 100% on the questions.

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

> It's *very* helpful to have podlings consider their growth using some > form of structured and consistent criteria, so IPMC (and board) can > consider how different podlings see themselves compared to past podling > history. I think the current Model has a number of vague statements that are unl

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

Bertrand Delacretaz wrote on 9/4/17 4:54 AM: > Hi John, > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John D. Ament wrote: >> ...Its unfair for us to put some stake in the ground expecting podlings to >> match up 100% on the questions. Many of the questions are subjective - is >> the code easy to discove

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

Hi John, On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:11 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...Its unfair for us to put some stake in the ground expecting podlings to > match up 100% on the questions. Many of the questions are subjective - is > the code easy to discover? respond to bug reports in a timely manner?... Ok,

Re: Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

Hi - I think that the model is a good measure and the development of it was an excellent example of the group dynamic in using a wiki. It is a list of best practices. If a podling goes through the process then we ought to treat it as a fair effort. I think that it would be worth applying a sim

Podlings & Apache Project Maturity Model (was RE: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP)

(changing subjects to avoid confusion in RocketMQ's discussion) I've been pretty explicit about my disdain in the past over the use of the Apache Project Maturity Model. The model describes an ideal world that all projects should strive for, but I would be surprised if many projects passed it. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi Dave, We have noticed that, and provided a method to report security issues in RocketMQ website[1], also updated QU30, thanks for your reminding. [1]. http://rocketmq.apache.org/about/contact/#Security Issues Tracking [2]. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Maturity+Evaluatio

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:06 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...please understand that the Apache Maturity Model is something that > helps the com dev team evaluate TLPs against. Its relevance to a > graduating podling is extremely small... FWIW, I disagree...I think the maturity model is a great too

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi - Comdev recently updated QU30 to make sure that security issues are handled on a secure and private basis. The PPMC needs to change the answer to QU30 as JIRA is not a secure process. Regards, Dave > On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:00 AM, Von Gosling wrote: > > Hi, > > Of course, we have listed o

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi John, Thanks for you explanation for AMM, I would like to complement an individual -> company mapping in our ME[1]. As for security aspect, not just for assessment, we would like to establish private channel in the website later :-) [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Also please understand that the Apache Maturity Model is something that helps the com dev team evaluate TLPs against. Its relevance to a graduating podling is extremely small. Also, if you want to discuss the AMM a bit, you have a bug in the security assessment that some other projects have hit a

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi, Could be that you have listed companies people work at. However, I'm looking for more of an individual -> company mapping. John On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:00 AM Von Gosling wrote: > Hi, > > Of course, we have listed our committer and PMC make-up in evaluation > list[1] :-） > > > [1] > http

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi, Of course, we have listed our committer and PMC make-up in evaluation list[1] :-） [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ROCKETMQ/Maturity+Evaluation Best Regards, Von Gosling > 在 2017年8月24日，18:55，John D

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi, Would you be able to talk about committer and PMC diversity a bit? When RocketMQ came to the incubator, most of the developers were from Alibaba. Please compare to [1] and let us know the affiliations of the prospective PMC members. [1]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RocketMQProposal On

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Hi, We have updated the latest incubation status report to RocketMQ podling status page[1], also updated the resolution[2] according to Jim's suggestion. Can we pick this thread up, sincerely hope IPMC can give some opinions to RocketMQ community. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/rocketm

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache RocketMQ from podling to TLP

Greetings Incubator, The RocketMQ podling has decided to pursue graduation to a TLP. The discuss thread[1] and The result of the RocketMQ vote in RocketMQ community is at [2][3]. Our podling status page has recently been updated and can be found here[4]. More graduation statement, including Mat