Hiya,
Nobody on the project has the bandwidth at the moment to take this on,
so +1 to put it dormant. If the bandwidth becomes available we will
re-open.
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
I have forwarded into the santuario dev list to see what people
I have forwarded into the santuario dev list to see what people want to
do. My feeling is dormant is a good thing for now.
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Nothing appears to be happening, and there is no one around to provide
status or anything else.
--- Noel
ictates
to the community. Surely the same is true of the PPMC?
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t have a review prior to being made a project that looks at all
commits? If anyone on the initial list has never committed or
contributed during the course of the incubation, then they get removed
from the committer list. That can even be a process that the PPMC vot
Out of curiosity - has any such "internal decision" been made? I can
not find anything in either of the archives - private or dev.
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Berin
Jim Jagielski wrote:
I will defer to those on the PPMC that had "issues"
with the list.
On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:31 AM,
in the podling that the membership
as a whole have agreed is looking out for the wider interests of the ASF.
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"ASF" thing.
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Geez - for some reason I thought he already was!!!
+1
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Davanum Srinivas wrote:
As part of reviving juice, can we please VOTE werner as a committer to
enable him to continue his offline work? [1]
Here's my +1.
thanks,
dims
[1] : http://www.nabble.com/Status-
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On September 3, 2005 10:30:49 AM +1000 Berin Lautenbach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0D
I saw that, but it's not very helpful as it says: "Such approval SHALL
be given only aft
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Roy T. Fielding wrote:
I am generally opposed to any of the suggestions that we add
more constraints to incubation (aside from a general constraint
of no new projects, which I can understand for infrastructure
reasons alone). What we need is more documentation, not more rules.
+1
--
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On September 1, 2005 8:41:11 PM +1000 Berin Lautenbach
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There are far more checks already. To get a project approved you need a
full resolution signed by the board. A better analogy would be voting
on a
new PMC member. No PMC re
ou need a
full resolution signed by the board. A better analogy would be voting
on a new PMC member. No PMC requires *any* input from anyone else to
take such a vote.
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g, would be to look at each
component and see where we can merge things together to come up with an
even better whole.
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ould be interested in joining?
Well, at least one :>. One of the things I'm looking at at the moment
is XKMS (albeit in the C++ space), and having another toolkit to work
with in that space would be most interesting indeed.
Cheers
layers for different
uses.
As an aside - that's one of the things we have been looking at doing -
wrapping JSR APIs around the current library without necessarily
removing the original API that people currently use.
Cheers,
broader XML security project - which I know I have talked about on and
off for a while :>.
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Alex Karasulu wrote:
Hello,
On behalf of the Apache Directory Project Team, this is a VOTE for
Directory to exit the Incubator. For more information on the project
and its status see the following status page and the Directory
Project's website here:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/direct
+1 from here!
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Doug proposed this a week and change ago (bad timing to do such things
around major holidays :-)). So far we have support from Dain, Nicola Ken,
Doug, Eric Hatcher, Henning, Roy and myself.
Roy, Nicola Ken, and myself provide the minimum
[x] +1 Approve the request to release
[ ] -1 Reject the request to release
[ ] +0 Abstain
--
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and
better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots.
So far, the Universe is win
It does look good.
Noel - make sure you do some heckling for me as well :>.
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Cliff Schmidt wrote
If it's any use, you can download the slides at:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2004/view/e_sess/5439
I'll be giving a similar pres
Neeraj Bajaj wrote:
Hello All,
I was wondering when can we start merging the JAXP 1.3 sources ? Merging
the code in branch/review/testing/committing to main trunk
would take time so at least from my side i would like to see this work
started as early as possible say from tomorrow. What is the ge
+1
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
Here is the current text of the JCR proposal from
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JcrProposal
Please cast your vote as +1 (yes), -1 (no), or something in between.
Vote ends 12pm (Noon) PDT -0700, Saturday, August 28, 2004.
Roy
1. Proposal for new project JCR
1.1. R
Status report for JuiCE for the Incubator
JuiCE has stalled waiting on a set of changes to the CLA proposed by Uni
of Memphis being approved by the ASF. Without this approval, Walter
Hoehn cannot get commit access to the repository. As he is one of the
key developers we need this sorted out be
+1
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
See: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal
[ ] Accept MyFaces into the Incubator
[ ] Reject MyFaces
Vote ends Midnight EDT (between Monday and Tuesday), Monday July 12, 2004.
--- Noel
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Sander Striker wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to call for a vote to graduate SpamAssassin from the
Incubator.
SpamAssassin started working on incubation around August last year.
Since then a lot if not all of the Incubator requirements have been
addressed; the final one this week. Patience and persistence
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
As per Cliff's previous email, files will be moved on www.apache.org/dist
and the XMLBeans website will be updated.
Since XMLBeans appears to be about to leave the Incubator, this needn't
apply to it, but as we examine Incubator policies, I'm wondering if we
should make it a
+1 :>.
Cheers,
Berin
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
The XMLBeans project has been actively developed in incubation for
about 10 months. During this time, the user and developer
community has continued to grow stronger, both in number,
diversity, and degree of cooperation. In addition,
I *hate* (with a passion) the cwiki format. There were two spaces at
the start of an otherwise blank line in xmlbeans.cwiki. Don't ask how
long they took to find.
I've also fixed the log4??? stuff, rebuilt and committed. It should
come through to the site soon.
Cheers,
Be
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
There is a request that we approve clearly marked incubation distribution of
Lenya to help further community development. The request has the support
for Steven Noels and others in the Lenya community. There has been
considerable discussion on the state of the community in
incubation?
Are there any others?
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I have set up the archive on /www/incubator.apache.org/mail/
but someone else will have to enable eyebrowse.
Eyebrowse now set up as well.
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Thursday 27 May 2004 20:49, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
Seems they removed it:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon-2.1/gump.xml
It existed here:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon-2.1/gump.xml?rev=1.155&view=markup
Ok... What do we do about it?
Avalon Excalibur S
+1. And very enthusiastic at that.
An absolutely heroic effort!
Cheers,
Berin
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
The Geronimo project has been in Incubation for almost 10 months. In
those 10 months, the Geronimo project has developed a community,
developed a new codebase in an open and
r PMC that will take it on post incubation.
The board was there for things like Geronimo. But the Incubator can
approve things that don't immediately have an identified home, such as
Beehive. (Probably TLP, but we might want to work it out as we go.)
Cheers,
ly
appreciate the work that went into the proposal. It makes things much
easier to understand :>.
Cheers,
Berin
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
Incubator PMC folks,
I would like to propose a new Apache project named Beehive.
The proposal can be found at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeehivePropo
David,
Many thanks indeed.
I'm now a big +1 :>.
Cheers,
Berin
David Sean Taylor wrote:
On Apr 23, 2004, at 5:49 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Guys,
I'm going to vote -1 here, until the status file is updated
addressing some of the original concerns.
Andrew Oliver rais
ven update the
STATUS file myself!
Cheers,
Berin
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TalkPlutoProposal
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And I've been meaning to raise the TLP issue for a while, so thanks to
Robert for pre-empting me :>.
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sure of the answers. Give me a status file that addresses the
concerns raised at the start of incubation, and I'll change to +1 with
fervor and alacrity :>.
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gladly change this to a +1.
I also suspect that others in the PMC have more visibility than I, but
we are being quite hard on other projects in incubation, and I believe
we need to be consistent.
Cheers,
Berin
[1]
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgId=792503
David
Status report for JuiCE for the Incubator
JuiCE is just entering incubation, and is currently in the process of
starting up. We are currently waiting on CLAs from core developers to
enable us to get started.
* is the STATUS file up to date? (also post link)
Yes - http://incubator.apache.org
Have a look at
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo/index.html#How+do+I+get+Involved%3F
Cheers,
Berin
Poornima Gunasekar wrote:
Hi,
This is Poornima, Software Engineer. I wish to participate in the project
"Apache-licensed implementation of the J2EE specification".
e have to change
very quickly!
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ce", but I have to confess to not
being enough of an expert on these issues to know if this is a problem
or not.
Guideance appreciated.
Cheers,
Berin
[1]
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor%0A
[2]
http://nagoya.apache.
OK. I'll start off by nominating Noel (although I think that was
already done elsewhere?)
I'd also suggest we timebox this. Can we allow a week for nominations?
Then maybe a week for votes within the PMC?
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Candidates interested in the
David Crossley wrote:
By the way, the Incubator FAQ needs a statement on this topic.
Hmm. Yes - I think you're right. I'll do something about that!
Thanks!
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David,
Just to back up Noel's comments below, if you put something to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], we can all kick it around. At the end of the day - if
those in xml-commons think it's a good idea, then the chances are it
probably is, and we can make it happen!
Cheers,
Berin
Noel
ink that's the way forrest-bot runs, but just want to make sure
that's the way we want to do it if we are building on minotaur, where
it's easy enough to just directly copy the results of a forrest run to
the incubator web director
ave the built site in CVS
so that if minotaur crashes they can quickly get sites back online.
>
> I didn't post to general@ because I would not unilaterially move your
> comments to public view. Feel free to move your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Done :>.
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Berin
ow them to update the status file in Incubator, aswell as
> access the committer CVS module.
Eminently sensible whilst there are modules in CVS that need to be
accessed by all committers. There are also things like access to web
sites for updates etc. that I would have thou
Leo Simons wrote:
I propose we release MerlinDeveloper from incubation and allow avalon to
import the code.
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d "hey she'll be right"!.
But - in the interests of moving along - I'm happy to agree to disagree
:>. I think the requirement for mentors is documented, and whilst it's
not as far as I would like, I believe it is sufficient.
Cheers,
Berin
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ncubator PMC and who can and will guide the project
back to the "collaborative state" as you so eloquently put it :>.
And by having that person clearly identified *prior* to problems
occuring, they can get in there and just do it.
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icnubator, so the XML PMC is the
landing PMC.
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y. If the mentor is doing absolutely
nothing and things are going well, then there is no need for a mentor
and quite possibly no need for the project to be in incubation anymore.
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Yes - I think that is the compromise position (I'm not 100% comfortable,
but then that's the definition of compromise :>).
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, but I do believe putting it in place will make the 1% easier
on everyone. (And after all, it's that last 1% that has the capacity to
cause the most problems.)
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members, but
that only the mentors must always be subscribed to the ppmc and dev
mailing lists.
See other e-mail - am not sure about all committers. (But also not
convinced against :>)
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. But you also need the landing PMC members.
Am not so sure about committers. Like you, I think I'd like to see them
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Aaron Bannert wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 03:43:56PM +1100, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
I'm confused by what you are saying. Do you believe there should
be one person in an authoritative position for each PPMC or not? I
am strongly against having "roles" within the ASF. Roles go
t a mentor is
supposed to be.
Of course, being an incubator PMC member in a PPMC list does not
preclude one also being a mentor, it's just that more is necessary.
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through :>.
Cheers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
When the Incubator is coming up for its own quarterly report, I think that
the Incubator Chair can send out a reminder to each PPMC list reminding
them. The PMC, for its part, can and should make sure that there is
would not bother to expand the
acronym.
. I only ask because I am reading the PPMC document, and it's
always good to expand acronyms in explanatory dox. I will go with
provisional until someone tells me otherwise :>.
Cheers,
Berin
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ator PMC members
There is no point in having a "practice" (still hate that word :>)
We dropped the "practice" designation.
So what does the extra "P" stand for now?
Cheers,
Berin
there is no purpose in the practice.
(I think I have missed something somewhere, so many apologies. - Either
way, if someone explains it to me, I'll update the document to make sure
it's clear for others in future :>.)
Cheers,
Berin
--
t and playing less of a role as
time goes on. But (IMO) you need someone to formally bootstrap the PPMC
and ensure everything is going properly.
CHeers,
Berin
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin,
Just as the ASF Board does with each PMC, we should try to encourage each
PPMC to do the oversi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
...
I note that at the moment we have reserved the right for the Incubator
PMC to vote if so desired.
Does everyone think we should remove that potential out of the policy?
I think so now. It should not be of our business to challenge the
hey want to be), but I believe there should be one officially
assigned mentor who is responsible for reporting etc.
No different to the chair of a PMC.
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ryone think we should remove that potential out of the policy?
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Cancel question about wiki - should have looked first.
Apologies - and a very Merry Christmas!
Cheers,
Berin
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Nicola,
I only have one overall thought (and you're going to think it remarkable
picky, especially at this late stage :>). As an aside - is thi
late stage. Feel free to ignore, as I should
have made this comment a long time ago.
Cheers,
Berin
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Apart from the general agreement on PPMCs, for this particular vote
instance there has been a +1 from me, one from Noel, on with changes
from Aaron and a posi
Ceki,
Realising that you don't necessarily need someone from the Incubator,
I'd still be interested in helping out with the log4cxx piece. I need
something like this elsewhere, so it seems like a perfect match.
Cheers,
Berin
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Hello,
We are looking for a
MC oversite.
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cision away from the project in inubation, and
I'm not sure I see how that is fostering the Apache way.
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+1
(Still curious about project Wonka)
Cheers,
Berin
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Since the "repo" moniker has a bad connotation to some, given that this
is meant to be an implamantation of the repository effort, and since
Rupert is too common in google, I change the propos
ion making
requirements back where I think the board wants it to be. With a small
core group of individuals responsible for each particular code base.
It also helps the Foundation scale as it reduces the requirements placed
on infrastructure@ (new web sites etc.)
As I said - FWIW.
Cheers,
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Nicola,
I suppose the only slight reservation would be who is accountable?
The old "Fred Bloggs is looking after that" can kick in. I think the
Incubator PMC also wants to be able to hold people accountable for
inubation activit
have to be formally done? There can be a single "Mentor" with
others involved and helping out.
Cheers,
Berin
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
From the current incubations, it's becoming quite clear IMO that a
single Mentor is not enough for most, if not all, incubated projects.
As
Peoples,
Just to let you know that I'll be travelling for the next two weeks with
the family. Almost no access to e-mail, so if I don't reply to e-mail,
I'm not being rude :>.
Cheers,
Berin
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for the rest, whatever the general agreement is in terms of
names, I'll run with it.
And as a final thought - I *hate* e-mail for these kinds of things.
Give me a face-to-face meeting or a teleconference anyday.
Cheers,
Berin
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ance". The first
has an intro page discussing what the policy is for and a single
document (the policy) and the second has the other documents with an
intro page discussing what they are for?
Cheers,
Berin
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due-diligence on behalf of the incubator. It has been given
a task by the board. How can it show it is performing that task
adequately in each case if it cannot go back to a normative reference?
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ated Project"
or "Project being incubated"?
Incubee?
Hmmm...
. Can't believe you don't like it! It's what you get when you
cross a buzzing insect with a mythical demonic creature. (A bee with
attitude.)
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. From my perspective I just picked it up from
the earlier documentation :>.
This is what we mean:
http://www.geobaby.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=103478
This is what users may find instead:
http://dict.die.net/podling/
Hen
with the caveat that where the Incubator PMC is the sponsor,
one of the exit criteria will be finding an owner on exit.
(Owner might be the board for a Pod/Podling that becomes a
TLP.)
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he incubation process.
>
> Are there actually cases where the member sponsoring the new project
> isn't the mentor? I mean, who is going to 'champion' a new project and
> then leave it to someone else to mentor?
Yes there have been cas
hat the kind of person that
makes a great Champion is not necessarily the person who
makes a great mentor, so we agreed to keep the two
separate - gives some flexibility.
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I suspect it's because I am not a member of the incubator group, but
before I go to infrastructure@, I'm not sure whether I should be a member?
Cheers,
Berin
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the "draft" off the policy, there are some
MUST/SHALL requirements placed on the Incubator PMC that you might want
to be comfortable with (in particular quaterly reviews of Podlings) :>.
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request a review of activity or issues at any
other time". (Better worded, but it's dinner time and I'm in a hurry :>.)
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s role (at least prior to
acceptance by a "sponsoring entity" or whatever
we want to call it now) I think. However I like
the idea of calling the "sponsoring entity" the
sponsor, as it's more natural. For the purposes
of documentation why not something like the
candida
at, I like the layout (but then I already know Forrest, so
I like it from that perspective too :>).
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
BTW, I wrote two mails about it on this list, did you miss them? I mean,
are we still having problems with mails?
I seem to be getting the odd mail bounced after five days of trying?
Cheers,
Berin
incubation effort. If we start saying we want
this tool or that then things start getting messy.
Doesn't mean that the Incubator can't point people to a favourite
tracker as a tool - just means it's a suggestion, not a requiremen
was there to remind me to do).
Which is what I fixed!
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is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache
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a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications,
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