On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:56 PM Kevin A. McGrail
wrote:
> I have committed to champion and I think the points you make are good,
> Ted. Do you have the bandwidth to be a mentor?
>
I don't have the time.
I am interested in the project, but just can't afford the time and effort
for mentoring a
Three things are very clear to me:
1) having an open source iSCSI implementation from a mature and experienced
storage stream is a very cool thing, especially if it can be targeted to
non HDFS storage relatively easily. Building such a thing requires very
high levels of experience and expertise th
Looks good to me.
Pruning is hard work.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tend to put this resolution up for the next board meeting, feedback
> welcome. If you have any objections to this course of action please speak
> up. The list of 77 people can be found on
This is great.
Any chance to contribute this plugin to maven?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:30 PM Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> somewhat related to the question, and just in case anyone is interested,
> maven can be configured to generate the
> .asc an
+1
It was a good effort (and a good reboot effort). But the world changes.
Thanks to Javi for working hard on this.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 7:14 AM Javi Roman wrote:
> Unfortunately, despite an effort to reboot the project about more than one
> year, we weren't successful in keeping the exist
+1 (binding)
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 8:31 AM Guangxu Cheng wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Regards
>
> Mohammad Asif Siddiqui 于2019年12月4日周三 下午2:57写道：
>
> > +1 (binding)
> >
> > Regards
> > Asif
> >
> > On 2019/12/04 05:31:46, 俊平堵 wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > >
> > > The [DISCUSS] thread on N
; > "live amongst" the NuttX folks where they are now and verify that
> that
> > > the
> > > > founder's authority and reputation will not result in a BDFL effect.
> > > >
> > > > Just a thought,
> > > > -Alex
> > > >
> >
Very well said.
I am optimistic.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Gregory Nutt wrote:
>
> > This is a good discussion to have had before entering the incubator, and
> I'm satisfied that the intent is good, and the podling can demonstrate
> during incubation that the founder will in fact step back
My concerns are addressed as well.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:11 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
>
> My concerns have been addressed. I think we can proceed with the VOTE. I
> intend to be +1(binding)
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Craig Russell wrote:
> >
> > IPMC hat on...
I doubt that the name is the crucial issue. I would see that have a
substantial group of initial committers who are active in setting up there
project would be the crucial step. That doesn't have to happen before
incubation.
As a thought experiment, if Greg could go on a disconnected vacation righ
Random uninformed question here.
Having a project that seems to have the name of a prominent community
member seems to pose a risk that there is a benevolent dictator pattern at
work here.
Can somebody comment on this?
The problem would be that this mode of operation is heavily deprecated at
Ap
The problem might just be that pixels are getting smaller.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 12:15 AM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it just my old eyes or do other people also find the font size too
> small on the incubator site? While it does scale well and easy for a user
> to increase the size, h
Here is the same data in tabular form, courtesy of python and R.
startYear started finished min mean median max
1 2003 14 14 58 days 653.4286 days 329.0 days 2419 days
2 2004 16 16 0 days 587.9375 days
JBO,
I agree with your curiosity, but maybe we should take it to another thread.
Comparison to Kafka or Pulsar or ... doesn't really affect the question of
incubation.
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 5:41 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As soon as we have communities, there's no problem.
>
>
Continuing on a netbeans list is probably right.
In the meantime, proceeding in a good faith decision that is agreed to by
the PMC is a reasonable thing to do. Checking with legal is never a bad
thing.
So do your due diligence and make a good decision. Then go for it.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 9:26
Please note that this summary is a bit late for board approval this month.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:48 PM Moaz Reyad wrote:
> The vote to recommend Apache SINGA graduation to Top Level Project
> resolution
> to the board has passed with:
>
> 4 +1 votes:
>
> Furkan Kamaci
> Kevin Ratnasekera
>
A vanity mentor is a person with a big name and a small amount of time.
Projects go for the name, the mentor goes for the ego boost and then
reality catches up. But, hey, you are "mentoring" 12 projects!
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 5:18 PM David Jencks
wrote:
> What’s a “vanity mentor“? How do I
+1
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:17 AM Dave Fisher wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Regarding: QU30: See https://www.apache.org/security/ and
> https://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
>
> https://druid.apache.org/druid-powered is impressive.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:03 A
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:10 AM Dave Fisher w...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Ted Dunning
> wrote:
> >>>
> >&g
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:10 AM Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:24 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Ted Dunning
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:24 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> ...
> >> "The Apache Podling Foo has voted on releasing Foo 1.2.2 (url and
> >> pointers here). We have 3 (or more) binding votes from me
e:
> Hi Ted,
>
> but instead of questioning the Bylaws or introducing two classes of
> artifacts I would rather try to improve mentor votes as this is something
> we can do incubator internal.
> And its always better to cure the cause then the symptoms : )
>
> Julian
>
> Am
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
> ...
> This does NOT mean that the IPMC should be gatekeepers though... Just as
> PMC chairs are the "eyes and ears of the board", mentors are the "eyes and
> ears of the IPMC". The IPMC "vote" should be little more than a formality.
> IMO, if
Links for those who missed the memo (like me)
The current report:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/August2019
The next report:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/September2019
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:44 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> HI,
>
> Of the podlings
This sounds very similar to the stuff used by Signal Foundation for
securing some of their work to do with contact discovery.
https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/
I would expect it to be very useful for some things.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:27 AM Matt Sicker wrote:
> Would this
+1 (binding)
As a side comment, I know that you said it in your second email, but the
restriction to *exactly* java 1.8 isn't clear from the README. Also, it is
easy to *think* you have changed which version of java you are using, but
not actually have done so. For an example of how this illusion
Oh... and the project sounds like a cool one!
(should have mentioned that before)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:06 PM Ade Sanni wrote:
> Ok, sounds good.
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:02 PM Ted Dunning
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ade,
>>
>> Getting some code in plac
Ade,
Getting some code in place is a good first step. Getting a start on a
community is an important next step, and it is better done before coming to
Apache for a variety of reasons. One of the simplest reasons is that you
can't even make a release at Apache without having an active community.
S
Tags might help non-board member.
But as a board member, I take care to read every message to board@ and
members@
And right now, that is exhausting.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 6:57 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:38 PM Tom Barbe
Tom,
We need to fix board@. You are correct that it isn't usable currently. Not
for you. Not for the board.
Can you make suggestions about what levels of moderation / social
enforcement would make the mailing list tolerable for you but (from your
understanding) would be acceptable?
On Sun, Jul
That sounds good to me (the general idea at least).
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As discussed in the "overzealous bureaucracy" thread, I suggest
> changing the text on the http://incubator.apache.org/ homepage to
> present the Incubator as a service prov
My thought is that having a scary incubator warning text is the price to be
paid for having an incubator release process that could allow releases with
problems.
The best solution to that is to graduate and get rid of the warning
entirely.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 9:50 AM Gian Merlino wrote:
>
License scans like this are great, particularly for software that will
eventually be scanned by some commercial user anyway. Hopefully most
projects are simpler than Superset, though.
Looking at the scan results, however, immediately raises the question about
all the GPL licenses turned up in the
In the incubator, leadership is also very important.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:50 AM Daniel Shahaf
wrote:
> Guys, aren't you forgetting something? The VP is to sign the Board
> report. Everything else that Justin is doing he's doing as a rank and
> file Incubator committer. If you disagree
Let me add my vote of full confidence in Justin as VP Incubator. He is
doing an excellent job.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:41 AM Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 4:48 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> > > > IMO, stop being pessimistic. Move forward with change to stop the
> gating,
> > > >
It is a great thing to consider.
It might be a good thing for that new mentor to spend some time getting
some intensive mentor tutorial.
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Markus Weimer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there any reason not to consider a recently minted ASF member who is a
> PMC member of a p
This comment by Craig is the most important one in the discussion.
When the first words that people pick when disagreeing are essentially
personal insults, what is going on is better described as mud wrestling
rather than discussion.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 5:01 AM Craig Russell wrote:
> ...
>
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:59 AM Greg Stein wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:38 AM Lars Francke
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is very much not thought through to the end. One question raised
> for
> > > example is whether projects would even want to become a TLP.
> > > The mission states: "We d
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:17 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:48 AM Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > The VOTE was ridiculous. It can only come out "Yes", so why?
> >
> > Which is the outcome of most votes, they confirm consensus.
>
>
> A vote has two outcomes. This kin
Willem,
There are already tools to help address the most common issues. The common
issues that can't currently be addressed involve human language which is
hard to figure out automatically.
Assuming that these tools can be improved (and they definitely can) who
would you propose do the extending?
Alex, Jim, Bertrand,
This discussion is re-inventing a discussion that has been had before. At
one time, the incubator tried to present principles to incoming podling
(albeit not in a very well documented fashion). The reaction was that
podlings strongly wanted specifics, not general principles. T
+1
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 7:17 PM Andriy Redko wrote:
> +1, only the best to the team and the community
>
> SW> Hi
>
> SW> This is a call for official vote of Zipkin leave from incubator, and
> return back to OpenZipkin.
>
> SW> PPMC have voted.[1], carried two IPMC +1 vote from Sheng Wu and
cubating label when copying
> the artifacts to dist.a.o?
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 6/10/19, 11:13 AM, "Ted Dunning" wrote:
>
> The content of a release and the downstream limitations on field of
> use are
> not a matter of legal shield. It has always been
The content of a release and the downstream limitations on field of use are
not a matter of legal shield. It has always been the case that the
fundamental promise of Apache has been that Apache software is easy and
safe to adopt and use.
Easy and safe meaning that you won't have nasty surprises li
There are three kinds of release constraints at Apache. Only one is
critical for new podlings.
1. Legal constraints on whether Apache has the right to distribute the
source code in question and link to any non-source dependencies. This
mostly applies to projects coming out of commercial entities,
I signed them again.
I saw the formatting change while I was editing. I think we had colliding
changes that blew up the formatting.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:34 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The formatting of teh incubator report got messed up and I had to revert
> to a previous versions.
Very useful.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:22 PM Adrian Cole wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> Through Zipkin's incubation, I noticed that knowledge of state of the
> art is not equally distributed. Some voting approaches already in use
> aren't known. Also what you can use to automate isn't known. As
> podlin
Thanks
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 12:20 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Has the Incubator report been moved to the new wiki?
>
> Yes.
>
> > What is the new URL if so?
>
> It’s now at:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
> ---
Has the Incubator report been moved to the new wiki?
What is the new URL if so?
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 4:39 AM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The following project failed to report on time and will be asked to report
> this week
> - Milagro
> - Toree
>
> This is the second time that Milagro h
Moving to a data format that makes a stronger distinction between content
and envelope might be nice. JSON would work if content is actually quoted
(don't bet on it). A directory would probably be better because the content
of a file can't break the meta-data in the directory. Something like a real
Craig
You are correct. I missed the distinction between their content and user
content.
As you say, nothing on SO can be incorporated into Apache anything without
separate licensing. This is a good argument for redundant answers on Apache
mailing lists.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 6:45 AM Craig Russel
Justin,
THis is a huge and important point.
I had completely forgotten that SO had these abusive terms.
To summarize, just so everybody is clear, according to their terms of
service *anything* you put on SO is the property of SO. That is sooo
completely anti-Apache, that I have a hard time recom
flow is part of
> the community — and I do — then StackOverflow is an excellent way to grow
> community.
>
> Julian
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > Just subscribe to appropriate tags on stack overflow and direct
> > n
Just subscribe to appropriate tags on stack overflow and direct
notifications to the dev list.
Then encourage the community to answer on stack overflow.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 6:32 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> I think a user@ mailing list is better for the project’s sustainability
> and Apache.
>
>
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 1:57 PM Craig Russell wrote:
>
> > copyright issues on the cute cat and rabbit photos [1] probably mean
> that they cannot put that release in the ASF distribution area even if they
> do get 3 +1s without legal and infra approval.
>
> We have to look at risk here. Is
dering to help podlings in
> various ways possibly hoping to be a mentor (committer) someday.
>
> Regards,
>
> Woonsan
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:49 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > Woonsan
> >
> > I think that there may be some cross-talk between discussio
Woonsan
I think that there may be some cross-talk between discussions. This latest
discussion was about the Ipmc ,not about the podling PMCs.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:27 PM Woonsan Ko wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:33 PM Justin Mclean
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > It’s been suggested that
I don't think that the number of inactive IPMC members is a factor in
anything. They are, by definition, inactive.
So I would vote for the no-op action (#4, I think).
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:39 PM Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:33 PM Justin Mclean
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
>
Dmitriy,
I don't think that you got a real answer to your section question.
The standard response to this would be a question in return. Instead of
"remove inactive members and add new ones" why not just "add new ones".
The point of this question is that inactive PMC members are not a problem
(A
Greg,
Would you categorize yourself as one of these drive-by kibitzers?
On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:55 AM Greg Stein wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 5:17 AM sebb wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 10:49, Greg Stein wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 2:50 AM sebb wrote:
> > >
> > > > O
Kevin,
Can you explain what checking you did to justify your vote?
This is important so that others can know what has already been done.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:02 AM Kevin A. McGrail
wrote:
> On 2/26/2019 8:20 AM, David P Grove wrote:
> >
> > Or in the case of the current OpenWhisk podli
ty-driven, positively impactful, and
> > innovative
> > > > > open source software. While Yahoo has taken a number of steps to
> > > advance
> > > > > its various open source projects, we believe the DataSketches
> library
> > > > > project
Willem,
This issue of embedded binaries for testing purposes has come up before.
Examples include network intercepts for testing malware detection or class
files for a byte code manipulator. The network files can't easily be
recreated since they were observed in the wild and the class files might
Actually, I find that early drafts are easier to work on using gdocs. Once
things settle down, the wiki is a very good place.
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:35 PM lee...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> On 2019/02/23 18:54:57, leerho wrote:
> > Forgive me I am a newbie, but there has got to be a better way
It didn't make it again
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 8:35 PM leerho wrote:
> I'm not sure the attached document made it through.
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:28 PM leerho wrote:
>
> >
> >
>
It is good to provide these checksums in the email so that people can be
sure later that they have the right artifacts.
On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 2:53 PM Penning, H.P. (Henk) wrote:
> sorry for terseness
> please provide signature and checksum for
> incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubat
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > Obviously, lots of informational activity occurs off the mailing list. A
> > great example is answering questions on stack overflow. And ApacheCon
> talks
> > which actual
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:43 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > But apart from all of that GitHub issues should definitely be mirrored
> back
> > to the mailing list. There's no way to justify that an issue tracker is
> > not echoed back.
>
> They were not being, but that’s being changed, and t
Obviously, lots of informational activity occurs off the mailing list. A
great example is answering questions on stack overflow. And ApacheCon talks
which actually led to certain decisions being made should definitely be
echoed back to the mailing list.
But apart from all of that GitHub issues sho
+1 from here as well.
Good luck to the project participants.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 16:32 John D. Ament wrote:
> +1 to retire
>
> Like all podlings, the source code will continue to be available in a read
> only fashion, if others ever want to pick it back up or restart a podling
> with the nam
If the course doesn't involve actually doing things like checking releases,
then a good, well indexed and cross referenced FAQ page is more useful (and
the ones we have are very useful, speaking from experience).
For my part, most courseware is just an *extremely* slow form of reading. I
really do
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> ...
> > FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period
> max of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource
> drain. I haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this.
>
> Nice idea. I
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
>
> ...
> > Possibly retirement?
> > ODF toolkit (7 years in the incubator!)
>
> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was
> recently moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover
> the domains
Totally +1 on this well crafted proposal.
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:30 AM Adrian Cole wrote:
> I would like to propose Zipkin as an Apache Incubator project.
>
> The text of the proposal can be found below as well as on the Incubator
> wiki:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ZipkinProposal
+1
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 9:36 AM Dave Fisher wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 15, 2018, at 9:27 AM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> >
> > After a brief discussion [1] I would like to call a VOTE to accept DLab
> into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available on
+1
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 17:51 P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> As the champion for this project, I’ll volunteer to take care of the
> retirement tasks.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Josh Elser wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Gossip podling has voted to retire from incub
At the start of the project's incubation, this can be set up quite
informally by just deciding on a list of initial members.
After the incubation is further along, a bit more formality is a good idea.
At that point, have a vote, proclaim a result and be done. There is no firm
line that determines
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:02 AM Edward Capriolo
wrote:
> Also what is the point of forcing us into this monthly reporting cycle? It
> is kinda stressing me out. Is this a new thing just to harass me into
> retirement.
>
That is a common step if a project doesn't produce reports reliably or
seems
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:35 AM Edward Capriolo
wrote:
> I want to get this out there. I do not know why everyone is stuck on
> gossip. There are some TLP that do not have activity for years and podlings
> much older then gossip. I can give numerous examples.
Please do give these examples. They
If it is small, just send it to the private mailing list.
.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 18:47 Willem Jiang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just checked the group list[1], there is no xxx-pmc if the xxx is
> incubating project.
> I guess you need to find another way to store the private information.
>
> [1]http://p
Cool.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:27 PM Suneel Marthi
wrote:
> Yes we did clarify that with ECI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 28, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >
> > +1 to retire
> >
> > Somebody should reach out to the ECI Telecom per
+1 to retire
Somebody should reach out to the ECI Telecom person for voted -1 to let
them know that the project isn't necessarily dying with this step and to
let them know that they can fork the project and revive it (outside of the
Incubator for now)
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:18 PM Dave Fishe
We have been working for quite some time to desensitize people so that they
don't have a strong emotional cost associated with different ways to leave
incubation. That animus just gets people to avoid the right decision for
far too long.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 10:22 Josh Elser wrote:
> Ah, maybe
The licensing scrub does need to be done. But not necessarily before
incubation starts.
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Ryan Blue
wrote:
> Okay, then let me rephrase: I would like to see a plan in the Palo proposal
> for a licensing scrub to be done before graduation.
>
> I'm still a little s
penldap.org/devel/gitweb.cgi?p=openldap.git;a=blob;f=LICENSE;hb=e5f8117f0ce088d0bd7a8e18ddf37eaa40eb09b1
> * rapidjson (Tencent)
> Unknown
> * cyrus-sasl (CMU License)
> https://spdx.org/licenses/MIT-CMU.html
> AKA MIT-CMU
>
> Lots of work in evaluating licenses.
>
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Ted Dunning wr
Ouch.
The copyright in question was attached to code from the source code for
mySQL. There is no way that code can be in an Apache project.
Given the cut and paste history, it seems like it will require a very
detailed audit of code history or web searches to find where the original
code came fro
On Mon, May 21, 2018, 21:12 Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Why does this need to be included at all? Why not just provide a pointer
> to
> > the canonical minified version?
>
> Most common occurrence (off the top of my head) is a minified version of
> bootstrap for project site / documentations
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:52 AM, Justin Mclean
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Javascript code that is minified or combined in any major way is much
> more
> > like binary code in that respect. It is true that somebody *could*
> inspect
> > the correlation, but it is not true that this inspection is either
>
The general meaning of source code is that it is the artifact that people
will edit and which they can inspect by normal textual or graphical means
to ensure that there are no surprises.
Javascript code that is minified or combined in any major way is much more
like binary code in that respect. It
There may be binary convenience artifacts, but let's not dignify them by
the name release. They aren't, after all.
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Matt Sicker wrote:
> I still minimally require proper gpg signatures on binary artifacts. The
> source artifacts are what get far more scrutiny, b
Greg has it all correct.
But nothing prevents Alibaba from publishing under coordinates that they
control.
It needs to be clear however that it is alibaba publishing there, not
Apache.
On Tue, May 8, 2018, 13:56 Greg Stein wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to send a note that Infra has seen a coup
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 18/04/18 01:47, Gian Merlino wrote:
> > Thanks Taylor!
> >
> > Do you know if this is something that the PPMCs are supposed to have
> access
> > to or should we be asking you for help if we want to check again?
>
> The best solution would
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Ralph Goers
wrote:
> ...
> >> such people can earn merit by becoming involved with the community and
> > helping out where they can.
> >
> > In theory, that sounds good, but as a practical matter, how many people
> > that have ever been on the ASF board of directo
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Goers
wrote:
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin <
> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have
> > them at sponsoring organizations. For example both Airbnb and L
ne
>
> > On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> >
> > Luciano created a Jekyll prototype a year or so ago. Let’s dust that
> off.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 19:30, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >>>
> >>&
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I think that a brand compliant initial podling page would not be hard to
> create using the Apache CMS.
>
The problem I have with that is that it encourages further use of CMS and
also that CMS is hard for people to learn because th
I think a key task here is to help people understand that retirement does
not me and that the community dies. What means in many respects is the
community's freed of the Apache process.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 09:16 Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Nick Ke
I try to be more aware early on and then ease up later after things start
moving smoothly.
I still watch a lot, however.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Hen wrote:
> > ...If you
> > think of someone y
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Maxime Beauchemin <
maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi general@incubator!
>
> This is an email discussing the challenges we are facing while using Github
> / Gitbox for our ASF project and wanted to start a thread to discuss
> solutions and ways we can mitiga
I think the problem is serious. I also think that signoff rate is a better
metric in practice than it seems it would be.
Adding the additional metric seems like a small step that could help.
Being aggressive about removing non-mentors is a very good idea. It is best
if mentors remove themselves,
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