Re: [Question] LimitedInputStream license issue in Spark source.

2023-03-01 Thread Sean Owen
Right, it contains ALv2 licensed code attributed to two authors - some is from Guava, some is from Apache Spark contributors. I thought this is how we should handle this. It's not feasible to go line by line and say what came from where. On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 1:33 AM Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > May

Re: P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand

2014-12-22 Thread Sean Owen
I was going to ask the same. I've seen ~5 proposals now, and was surprised to see how they all copied and pasted the same boilerplate to answer several points, including this stanza about risk of excessive fascination with the brand. I also suspect that there is excessive fascination, and that pay

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache DeviceMap from the incubator

2014-11-06 Thread Sean Owen
I don't have enough knowledge of DeviceMap to have much opinion. Going by the book (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements) at least 3 committers, presumably active, are as required as anything can be said to be. There were 12 committers prop

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flink 0.7.0-incubating

2014-10-26 Thread Sean Owen
Belatedly, I also say +1 as the NOTICE and LICENSE look good (an important issue of late), source compiles, tests pass, signature is good, process is good, etc. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Robert Metzger wrote: > Hi all, > > This is our second try to release Flink 0.7.0-incubating. The last

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator

2014-10-25 Thread Sean Owen
I'm reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community "A major criterion for graduation is to have developed an open and diverse meritocratic community ... The project is considered to have a diverse community when it is not highly dependent on any single contributor (there are

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Graduation of Apache Drill from the Incubator

2014-10-24 Thread Sean Owen
I have no strong opinion on the graduation, sounds fine, but can I ask how much of the contribution is not from MapR? I got through the top 10 contributors, making up maybe 95+% of it, and didn't see any non-employees, if my info is right: https://github.com/apache/incubator-drill/graphs/contributo

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
Sounds OK to me too if that is the prevailing sentiment; I personally do not operate (non-ASF) OSS projects that way. It seems just within the letter of the law. What about this little transitive dep of Netty I mentioned? This is not a NOTICE issue, and I *think* this one is beyond interpreting aw

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Ted Dunning >> wrote: >> > Netty's artifacts ("its distribution") do not include a notice. Thus, >>

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Netty's artifacts ("its distribution") do not include a notice. Thus, They most certainly do. Please download the distribution of Netty 4.0.20: https://github.com/netty/netty/releases/tag/netty-4.0.20.Final and find the NOTICE.txt file. I

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > >> Here's another example. Drill distributes Netty 4.0.20, which is AL2 >> licensed and contains a substantial NOTI

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > It is a tortured and patently incorrect reading to assume that the license > requires TWO copies of such notices. Sure, but, nobody said that. The question is whether at least one copy is present, and ideally in the right place. Here's anothe

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
That may be so, and I find this issue irritating to deal with, but I don't see that it has bearing on what is ultimately correct. I think that the guidance you refer to was wrong, according to the text of the licenses, and the link I pointed to. But even those are a bit ambiguous, so I raise the q

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > I admire the good-faith efforts that the Spark (and Solr) folks have put > in attempting to comply with their interpretation of ASF requirements, but I > don't think we should encourage podlings to emulate the current state of their > licen

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-11 Thread Sean Owen
/. > > Under normal circumstances, there is no need to modify NOTICE. > > Over and over again, it is emphasized that NOTICE does not need to be > modified and that the reference should be in the LICENSE file. > > This seems to contradict your assertion that these references need to b

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-10 Thread Sean Owen
No I just went straight for the binary distribution: http://people.apache.org/~smp/apache-drill-0.6.0.rc0/apache-drill-0.6.0-incubating.tar.gz This contains the third-party jar files in jars/. I assume http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html is still the law of the land so to speak and in

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-10 Thread Sean Owen
I had a look, since I was just dealing with NOTICE for another project. The key is whether copies of the third-party libraries are distributed. In the case of Drill, yes there are loads of 3rd party jars distributed in jars/; they are not just Maven deps referenced in pom.xml. I am sure this will

Re: Reviewing license / notice and bundled software

2014-07-17 Thread Sean Owen
When I did this review for Spark, I used Maven's license plugin: http://mojo.codehaus.org/license-maven-plugin/ mvn license:aggregate-add-third-party It creates a report of all transitive deps and their license, according to pom files. I had to indeed review lots of the dependencies by hand to e

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Sean Owen
I think it would be useful to expand on how this is different from Sentry too: "Argus is a framework to enable, monitor and manage comprehensive data security across the Hadoop platform." "The Apache Knox Gateway is a REST API Gateway for interacting with Hadoop clusters. [for the purposes of...]

Re: Joining the Incubator PMC

2014-04-10 Thread Sean Owen
hair of the incubator (don't >> know out of my head who that is at the moment). >> >> Best, >> Sebastian >> >> On 04/10/2014 08:06 PM, Sean Owen wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, just pinging this request. I might be in the wrong place? >>&g

Re: Joining the Incubator PMC

2014-04-10 Thread Sean Owen
Hello all, just pinging this request. I might be in the wrong place? let me know what I can do to join the PMC for purposes of Stratosphere's incubation. Sean On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Sean Owen wrote: > Hello all, I've been invited to help mentor the Stratosphere project.

Joining the Incubator PMC

2014-03-30 Thread Sean Owen
Hello all, I've been invited to help mentor the Stratosphere project. Alan Gates reminds me that I will need to be a part of the Incubator PMC I believe in order to do that? I am an ASF member already so I believe it should be straightforward. How do we go about that? Best regards, Sean -