e (not just for the
sake of the newcomers but also for our own). Just like your wonderful
anecdote above about the Chicago Welcome Wagon!
Any Incubator community member could take on the responsibility for sending
such mails (from a template), and sign them either "on behalf of the Incubator
f an enforcer, as a provider of services to podlings.
> * It captures some of the value in what we are doing now while increasing
> the degrees of freedom provided to podlings.
> * It is consistent with our values of transparency, collaboration,
ation -- well-developed soft skills (such as biasing towards action) and
an understanding of the rationales behind why the ASF is the way it is are
fundamental to project success.
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> I would like to request edit access, so I can add a proposal.
> My username is BryanCall.
Done.
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:21 PM Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:17 PM, wrote:
>> > Continuing progress on converting to asciidoc.
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I can&
people to edit the site after
merely an SVN checkout, or would people have to install anything?
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> Central, but I would like to know if there is anything explicit about it.
Infra provides some extra support for certain kinds of distribution (we run
repository.apache.org, we used to run a PEAR repo, etc). I don't know of
any special techni
basically means
changing it is justified as soon as there's a commit anywhere in the source
tree in a new year.
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way entirely for any ASF product.
(Note that adding our copyright to the NOTICE file is an ASF policy, not
a requirement of the ALv2 -- outside users of the ALv2 do not have to
follow the ASF's example.)
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require copyright assignment. Thus the ASF only holds copyright in the
collection; that's what's expressed in the NOTICE file ASF copyright notice.
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it's simpler to divide up commit privileges than to unify them. Sure
-- I don't see a problem with that. +1 to go ahead and collaborate
with infra to make it happen.
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> Please grant me (username:espino) karma so I can update the Apache Incubator
> Wiki for the HAWQ podling report.
Looks like you're already in ContributorsGroup, so you should be good to go.
Marv
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>>>> Wiki username: JeffFeng
I added JeffFeng. Happy Wikifying!
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Hub distribution, and it seems like that was time well spent.
John, I don't see anything worth pursuing here.
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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>> ...Efficient asynchronous decision making over email is a skill, and
>> mastering it
>> is key to success as an Apache community
>
> Ind
ent ideas for asynchronous consumption is not the same as the way
you'd do it in real-time.
The question I always have when podlings ask about Slack, IRC, videochat,
face-to-face convos in meatspace, or any real-time communication channel, is
whether they appreciate w
Move the ASF logo down to the "About The Apache Software Foundation"
section. Center the Incubator logo at the top.
Also, I like my bikeshed purple: http://purple.bikeshed.org/
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On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>> For what it's worth, on one dev list I'm on, pull requests make it to the
>> dev list, but commenting on a commit via the Github interface only trigge
y nice framework to organize
incubation around. (Moreso than, say, an enumeration of our policies, which
would overemphasize rules.) The Incubator might not formally integrate the
Maturity Model today, but perhaps that could change.
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ist, but commenting on a commit via the Github interface only triggers a
private notification -- the comment never makes it to our dev list. We mostly
avoid Github commit comments for that reason, so inclusiveness is not harmed
-- but
I reverted the OpenWhisk wiki commit because it contained lots of conflicts.
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Apache Wiki wrote:
> Dear Wiki user,
>
> You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Incubator Wiki" for
> change notification.
>
&
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Cesar Berho wrote:
> Please add me to ContributorsGroup on Wiki, I'm trying to upload the PMC
> report
>
> Account: Cesar Berho
Added "Cesar Berho" (with space). Happy
ar as I know, they're following the
recommendation. What more can we ask of them?
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n of such licenses is that the copyright
holder for subsequent changesets must make them available under the
original license. However, BSD licenses do not impose such a
restriction, so it's valid to create an ALv2 changeset to apply on
top of a
d-license-compatibility
This is outdated but still a good read:
http://www.catb.org/esr/Licensing-HOWTO.html#compatibility
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m an
> opinion around which logos make sense and don't make sense, in addition to
> the community vote that is going to happen.
>
> So if you're looking to join that committee, please reach out.
I'd like to participate.
(FWIW, I used to work in graph
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> While I agree with what both John and Marvin are saying, the key word here
> is “discretion”.
+1 for IPMC members applying discretion. I've submitted some suggestions
which I hope other IPMC members will consider, and I'v
OK for incubating releases, but first require approval by
VP Legal.
Incubation disclaimers give us the flexibility to bring podlings into
compliance incrementally. At the same time, because podlings may not be
in compliance, incubation disclaimers a
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:05 PM Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Dan Kirkwood wrote:
> Personally, the reason why I'm asking about the impact is to better make a
> judgment call
olks, we're on RC *nine*. The IPMC has the discretion to apply the
"does it put the Foundation at risk" test for releases which don't
follow policy yet are still legal. This would seem like a good time
to be flexible.
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>> [ ](podling) mentor3
>> Comments:
>>
>> And rename Shepherd/Mentor notes: to just "Shepherd notes:"
>
> Big +1. Having even a sentence for most mentors with their thoughts is
> a huge improvement if we can get it.
I agree, this is very nice.
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it.
This isn't a big deal in practice because most people don't care about
the security implications of consuming the convenience binary and just
use that.
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> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 6:41 AM, John D. Ament
>> wrote:
>> > However, regarding the
>> > binaries. In a recent discussion (on legal-dis
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:47 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> [3]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain
That document has been superseded. Official Release Policy, curated
by VP Legal, is here:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy
Marvin Humph
s something I wrote to legal-discuss recently, which talks about
some of the security reasons why bundling a binary dependency is
problematic: https://s.apache.org/OuNX
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ibution and damage
the project's reputation, but that it's not something we need or want to
control with policy constraints. But we *do* care about things such as
guaranteeing that security conscious consumers will be able build from source.
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> Hi my I just created a userid CarlosSantana on the wiki
> Can I get write access?
Done.
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he podling.
Happy to. What usernames do the two of you use to log into
wiki.apache.org/incubator ? Are your usernames actually `Matt
Rutkowski` and `Carlos Santana` (with the space in the middle)? That's
possible but unusual, so
FredericClere my user can't edit it
> or is it too late?
I have added JeanFredericClere to ContributorsGroup, and you should
now be able to edit the wiki report page.
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> My login as "niclas"
Added.
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> Would someone kindly add me as a contributor to the incubator wiki?
>
> My username is RandallLeeds.
Done.
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from logins for other Moin wikis.) I'll add you.
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Incubator
website, at say http://incubator.apache.org/chat alongside guidance
documenting how we expect real-time communications to be used.
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf";
style="border:0; width:100%; height:450px;
g4cxx
- MRQL
- Myriad
- Toree
- Trafodion
- Wave
* The narrative and the Legal/Trademarks/Infrastructure/Misc sections need
to be fleshed out with summaries from August's conversations on
general@incubator. (Ted)
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the repor
go ahead. If Infra's
offering is not to your taste, that is.
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Khurrum Nasim wrote:
> I have created my new account on the incubator wiki. My username is
> 'KhurrumNasim'. Can you please help granting the edit permission for
> submitting the podling report?
Don
claimer on
the repo info page at https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/$REPO/ .
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> I have create my new account on Apache Incubator Wiki page, the username is
> "garyw", could you please help to add my account to ContributorsGroup asap.
> for submitting our September's podding report ? Thanks!
uld appreciate additional collaborators.
Someone to summarize the conversations that have taken place on
general@incubator and write the narrative for this month would be
welcome (and is probably the most interesting task).
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our dev communities, but distribution must be fenced off and outsiders
pointed towards official releases.
It would be great if there can be a strong division between hub.docker.com for
public images and something analogous to repository.apache.org on Bintray or
elsewhere for private
official release sounds like a good move, regardless.
For background:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy#release-definition
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy#publication
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that's required is a *plan* -- and it seems to me that there's enough of a
plan to get started.
Another detail is that very small contributions may not be copyrightable and
thus may not require relicensing. Again, that can be dealt with later.
Good luck!
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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Makoto Yui wrote:
> Hi Marvin,
>
> I'm going to answer your two questions.
>
>> 1) Who were the copyright holders at the time of relicensing?
>
> At the time of re-licensing, the copyright holder was AIST,
> my employer at that time
ensing of
Hivemall. Who were the copyright holders at the time of relicensing?
How was their permission secured?
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Phil Sorber wrote:
> Hi all, can you grant karma to "PhilSorber" to edit the incubator
> wiki?
Done.
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er/LICENSE.TXT#L25
Yes, bring this up on legal-discuss or open a LEGAL Jira. We should
definitely discuss that extra section -- with the addition, this
license is no longer BSD-3-clause.
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st revert to the clean revision, then apply the
subsequent changesets. It's not conceptually difficult, it just
requires high attention to detail.
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Eric Covener wrote:
> Hi all, can you grant karma to "EricCovener" to edit the incubator
> wiki for the podling report?
Done.
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sponse to Couchbase and several other similarly traumatic incidents,
today we work harder to review trademark usage and protect our
communities. Perhaps this helps the Fluo podling to understand why
fluo.io is receiving such attention.
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Apache Member Eric Covener has joined the Incubator PMC. Eric is
currently the PMC Chair of the original Apache project, the Apache
HTTPD server. He is also a PMC member for the Apache Portable Runtime
and OpenWebBeans projects.
Welcome, Eric!
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ing or wasn't actually policy was ruthlessly purged while the
list was being assembled.
If you look at the bottom of that link, you'll see a list to the wiki
page with items that didn't make the cut.
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However, when the logo is buried at the bottom of a long page, it does not
contribute very much.
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it plain that podlings are expected to uphold the
*spirit* of the guidelines, and not treat them as some bs technicality to work
around.
If podlings don't like the disclaimers, they can hurry up and do the work to
graduate.
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ra Enterprise subscription.
This situation is more dire than I thought. I'm changing my vote to -1
binding.
We need more confidence that we can actually count on human oversight to
address branding issues before removing the automatic controls.
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Marvin had sent out an audit of podlings out of alignment, we should double
> check that as going through quarterly reports.
This vote makes me cranky. Everyone is focused on making it easier for
podlings. Is the goal of incubat
rce release, and thus should not be in the standard LICENSE/NOTICE.
We'd need to pick a strategy for adding it later, such as maintaining
a separate LICENSE.binary/NOTICE.binary files or a build tool which
assembles a new LICENSE/NOTICE as part of the compilation process.
ss -- an attacker can
just bundle spoofed keys with a bogus distro! Keys need to be made available
from a highly reliable, separate server: Download the main package from a
mirror, get PGP keys from apache.org, pgp.mit.edu, etc. and verify.
The KEYS file within the Beam source tree should be
Mentoring capacity across all
podlings, and by our ability to cover central administration.
With regards to central administration, even at ~55 podlings, we are still
mostly managing to cover what's needed:
* Spare release voting capacity (Justin Mclean, John Ament)
* Report preparation
> addition to growing a community (all 3 goals in this report).
+1 to this excellent comment of Roman's on the Quickstep report. "Release
early, release often" is a technique for acquiring early adopters!
> ----
> Tave
a member of
the IPMC!
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On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Ellison Anne Williams
wrote:
> I would like to request access to the wiki in order to create a proposal;
> my username is 'eawilliams'.
It looks like this has been taken care of. Happy wikifying!
t the Chair. Thus a Chair can send
a [NOTICE] to the Board before the election completes.
The parallel isn't perfect, but it's never going to be because PPMCs
don't have Chairs. So I'd opt for convenience and expediency
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM Marvin Humphrey
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:21 AM, John D. Ament
>> wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > Did anyone change something recently in SVN? I pulled
ew=revision&revision=1746519
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ICLA.)
* People who need to access Jenkins and thus need `modify_appgroups.pl` run.
The stopgap is that we have a number of PMC Chairs on the IPMC, and if you
send a request to private@incubator someone can take care of it for you. The
vo
t or the state of the
Incubator.
Here's a suggestion: When the next Mynewt release candidate hits, if Justin
is still busy, how about some of the people who owe him big-time help him out?
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to do it for the code donation, after the proposal vote.
What will the process for this be? On this thread we have two outside
authors recognizing their own work, but that's obviously not a
realistic mechanism for identifying all potentially proble
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Victor Dogaru wrote:
> Can you please grant write access to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator for
> id VictorDogaru?
Done.
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as been incubating since 2013-10-15.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
> 1. increase the community
> 2. do more releases
> 3. make the community more active
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to b
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:45 PM, David E. Jones wrote:
> Thanks John, worked just fine.
David, can you please request to join the IPMC on private@incubator?
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> Got it. If you're having issues with the wiki, I'd be happy to tick your
> name for you (since we have email confirmation).
I edited the wiki on Upayavira's beh
n.
Every once in a while there will be some sort of crisis where a custom
categorization might be justifiable -- e.g. "In crisis" for a podling with no
Mentors, or "Considering retirement" when retirement is actively being
discussed (by the *PPMC*, because o
oup I hit "save" then go back to the email client and
send the "done" email without waiting.
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some fine-grained permissions scheme (which we tend to
shun at Apache anyway).
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ory-a
Here's a diff of the text of Apache 1.1 vs. MX4J:
https://paste.apache.org/DJgO
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> Hi,
>
> INAL but this is what I would do:
> - Add a pointer (i.e. path to the file) and the copyright owner to t
re-add the Geode report.
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Greetings,
The Incubator PMC has two new members.
Suneel Marthi (smarthi) is the PMC Chair of Apache Mahout and an Apache Member.
Uma Gangumalla (umamahesh) serves on the Apache Hadoop and Apache
Bookkeeper PMCs and is an Apache Member.
Welcome!
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Lee wrote:
> Can I get access to edit the Incubator wiki, too?
>
> Username: EvangeliaDendramis
Done.
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es and it looks like everybody got the reminders
except for ODF Toolkit and CMDA.
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ersion of the patch simplifying the Champion role,
as discussed in another thread[1].
https://paste.apache.org/KvMQ
If no one formally lodges a -1, I will claim lazy consensus after 72
hours and apply.
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[1] https://s.apache.org/GDhG
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The "Clutch Report" provides this sort of analysis.
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
Column B is "number of days in incubation", helpfully color coded.
Column S is &q
tradition, from the podling dev list.
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he podling dev list?
I think it makes sense for the Release Manager list the IPMC votes
being carried over, because then it is more apparent when a release is
lacking IPMC votes. However, that's just a recommendation -- even if
they don't do that, the I
Done. `xtang` added to `hudson-jobadmin`.
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 5:18 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> Technically, any VP on this mailing list can grant such a request if they
> feel so empowered.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:27 PM Roman Shaposhni
>
> Jakob,
>
> Not sure if your comments are relevant on this thread or the thread w/
> Marvin on it. Basically, with Marvin's incoming change, the champion role
> will be clarified as being responsible for only the bootstrap of the
> candidate into a vote for acceptance in
d
that therefore Julian's proposal is sound.
Here is a patch:
https://paste.apache.org/Ersh
If no one formally lodges a -1, I will claim lazy consensus and apply this
patch no sooner than a week from now, after discussion has died down.
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t; I
don't that NOTICE is so interesting that the long and involved conversations
we have about it today are especially beneficial. So making it more
mechanical is desirable.
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