Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation

2010-11-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
below) +1 (a bit biased as I was a fan of wave) --    J. Aaron Farr    馮傑仁    www.cubiclemuses.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-04 Thread J Aaron Farr
s > * Champion: Greg Stein > * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel > Rall > * Sponsor: Quite a collection of shady characters, but... +1 :-) -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com -

Re: [VOTE] Accept Libcloud proposal for incubation

2009-10-29 Thread J Aaron Farr
r/LibcloudProposal> > > Please cast your votes: > > [ ] +1 Accept Libcloud for incubation > [ ] +0 Indifferent to Libcloud incubation > [ ] -1 Reject Libcloud for incubation +1 -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com -

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread J Aaron Farr
y an general@ vote? My only concern is that we have some very great volunteers here on the general@ list who check release compliance and I doubt they want to deal with the traffic of every podling dev list. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubi

Re: Thrift release legal issues

2009-08-16 Thread J Aaron Farr
ution similar to the Apache license. The NOTICE file is *not* for notifications about other licenses. The NOTICE file is for required attributions as specified in the Apache license. You can put all the licenses or references to the licences in the

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
I know the last time there was any activity on the list was February (and that message was about retiring the project), but still, can one of the mentors at least ping them? Otherwise, I'm fine with retiring the project.

Re: incorrect terminology: lead developers

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
he same time, we need to balance the goal of having many contributors peer review the work and collaborate so that in the long run, the success of the project is not dictacted by any one person. If anything, we can say, projects need leaders, they don't need a pr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
e the proposed committers worked on open source previously?" but again, I think that's a case by case decision. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@in

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-08 Thread J Aaron Farr
need a concrete proposal to vote on anything. But to answer the original question: no codebase is initially needed. The incubator is bureaucratic enough as it is, no need to make up new requirements. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com --

Re: Incorrect use of "Sponsor".

2009-07-05 Thread J Aaron Farr
to not water down the value of the > main ASF thanks page.) We put `nofollow` on the Bronze level sponsors and that was to stop the sponsorship program from turning into a spam-ridden link farm. I don't recall the PRC requiring other links to use nofollow, but perhaps I missed it. Lots o

Re: [Proposal][Vote] Traffic Server

2009-07-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
mber of mentors and > contributors, and also added and improved on the proposal. I would > like this to be considered our official application, and that the > Incubator votes (+ or -) on our acceptance as a podling. +1 -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com -

Re: Mentors role after Graduation?

2009-07-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
a former mentor, around on the private@ list to answer questions. New TLPs have a VP who can go directly to the board, so it's not like they're completely on their own, but at least having someone subscribed to the private@ list can help. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemus

Re: Community readiness-when does it show?

2009-06-23 Thread J Aaron Farr
leaves the incubator with the commit bit barrier too high, they'll have problems down the road. If they leave the incubator with users but no contributors, they're also going to have trouble. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.com ---

Re: [MISSING REPORTS] Droids Lokahi SocialSite WSRP4J

2009-05-20 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Mon 18 May 2009 14:56, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2009 - those reports are overdue. WSRP4J missed the report completely this month. They should include a report next month. -- J. Aaron Farr 馮傑仁 www.cubiclemuses.

Re: New Incubator Proposal: Null - A cloud-aware Web 3.0 Container

2009-04-01 Thread J Aaron Farr
after: > > http://markmail.org/message/iz6ejtre3dwtfgdo You know, the subversion classloader was a *great* idea. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 --

Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects]

2009-02-20 Thread J Aaron Farr
es, and so on. Generally, someone who is willing to regularly help, review and "commit" to the project can be brought on. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 --

Re: Could someone create the JIRA project for ESME?

2008-12-04 Thread J Aaron Farr
ted it and added you and the mentors. We need the new committers to create accounts: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 --

Re: [VOTE] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator

2008-11-26 Thread J Aaron Farr
not sure if there's a problem > with the mailserver somewhere or if people are just getting ready > for Thanksgiving in the USA. Probably Thanksgiving. I can help close up the vote. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁

Re: [VOTE] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator

2008-11-19 Thread J Aaron Farr
and positive, we have a > Champion in J. Aaron Farr, and five mentors have signed up: > + J. Aaron Farr > + Bertrand Delacretaz > + Daniel Kulp > + Gianugo Rabellino > + Sylvain Wallez > > I think that now is the right time for a vote, so please vote +1 to > accept ESME int

Re: [PROPOSAL] ESME - The Enterprise Social Messaging Experiment

2008-11-04 Thread J Aaron Farr
ith the proposal. With ApacheCon this week, we'll want to give this a little extra time. I'd wait to hold a vote until next week at the earliest. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 ---

Re: [PROPOSAL - OpenWebBeans Project Proposal]

2008-10-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
etting to at least 3 committers is going to have to be the first order of business for this podling. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To

Re: Allow incubator releases?

2008-10-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
e to someone who can. As for motivation, escaping the neverending threads on this mailing list should be encouragement enough. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 --

Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation. +1 -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852

Re: Putting a visitor tracker on incubator project web site.

2008-06-25 Thread J Aaron Farr
wer is: not yet, but a lot of people like the idea and we just have to work out the details. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubs

Re: [VOTE] as to Thrift Proposal

2008-02-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
> On Jan 23, 2008 9:07 PM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We've just posted the Apache Incubator proposal for Thrift onto the >> Wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ThriftProposal +1 -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.c

Re: [VOTE] Accept CouchDB for incubation

2008-02-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
ime to vote on the proposal which can be found on the > Apache Wiki, and reproduced below. > > I would like to proudly start this off with my +1. > > - Sam Ruby > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CouchDBProposal > +1 Very excited to see CouchDB here. -- J Aaron F

Re: [VOTE] Accept PDFBox for incubation

2008-02-03 Thread J Aaron Farr
[ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please) [X] +1 Accept PDFBox as a new podling -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-02-03 Thread J Aaron Farr
David Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > J Aaron Farr wrote: >> git could be an issue. > > Can you explain what the issue is with Git? Leo already gave a decent explanation. Basically, it comes down to two aspects: 1) infrastructure support 2) cultural bias There&#x

Re: [DISCUSS] CouchDB incubator project

2008-01-31 Thread J Aaron Farr
but Damien had just joined MySQL at the time and wasn't interested in changing the license from GPL. Glad to see it make it to the incubator. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 ---

Re: [PROPOSAL] Thrift

2008-01-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
velopment now and I'd like to better understand some of the code that's running behind those servers. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 -

Re: moving a failed incubation project

2008-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
this and the PRC team is currently working on a "trademarks" FAQ that should also cover this. I agree that the "proper" thing for forks to do is change the namespace and it's reasonable to (politely) request this. However, beyond a request we're on shaky groun

Re: moving a failed incubation project

2008-01-23 Thread J Aaron Farr
kage name, or anything else in the source code. One arguably shouldn't then re-publish the binaries or source as "Apache Foo" [1], but the code itself can use the same namespace. If the fork wishes to do more than patch up the original or wishes to create its own identity unique fr

Re: Business Framework Project

2008-01-22 Thread J Aaron Farr
make it much more adaptable/extendable to > organizations, and much easier to extend to more business domains. I understand it's technically different from OFBiz, but have you looked at Apache OFBiz? Would it be something that team could use? http://ofbiz.apache.org/ -- J Aa

Re: Synchronizing PMC Membership rosters

2008-01-21 Thread J Aaron Farr
directory under /incubator in svn. But if you don't want to do that, then, yeah, a lab is fine. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubsc

Re: [VOTE] Accept Bluesky Project into the Incubator

2008-01-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
accepting Bluesky into the Apache Incubator. The vote > will run 1 week, beginning now, and will conclude Saturday, January > 12, 2008. [X] +1 Accept BlueSky for incubation -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubicle

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
ferent from the other Apache software. This will make it difficult to to get help from other Apache committers. That said, if there's enough interest, I'll do what I can to help. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁

Re: Java Jabber Server

2007-10-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
the MIT license. And while I haven't used this particular feature of ActiveMQ, it does advertise XMPP support: http://activemq.apache.org/xmpp.html -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 -

Re: [apachecon eu'08] Guide to successful incubation at the ASF

2007-10-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
submitted proposal. Cool. I did a couple of talks on open source communities and the incubator at OSCON and ApacheCon. You can find the slides at: http://www.cubiclemuses.com/cm/files/incubating_communities.pdf http://www.cubiclemuses.com/cm/files/incubator.ppt Feel free to use anything

Re: [VOTE] Accept project Buildr for incubation

2007-10-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
;t care >> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : +1 Good to see some Ruby code coming into the foundation, even if it is for compiling Java. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 -

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

2007-10-22 Thread J Aaron Farr
; [ ] +1 Accept Composer project for incubation > [ ] 0 Don't care > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : +1 Good luck! Great to see this code and community joining Apache. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubic

Re: The meta-data problem, redux -- call for help

2007-09-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
parsed by anyone or anything, but that's me. If people would rather have it in a wiki or database, then go ahead. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905

Re: Request to accept the Sling project for Incubation

2007-09-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
sal [4]) for incubation. +1 -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Proposal] Sling

2007-08-27 Thread J Aaron Farr
rward with just two mentors for now, given > that we have two other IPMC members (Carsten and Bertrand, both from > Day) as initial committers, so release votes and other such stuff > shouldn't suffer from lack of IPMC interest. I'll help. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com

Re: Incubator new committer redux

2007-07-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
o delegate committer voting responsibilities to PPMCs, then the PPMC votes are just as 'binding' as IPMC votes. AFAIK, there's no legal barrier for this to happen, only procedural ones. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US]

Re: [Graduation Apparel] Logo

2007-06-17 Thread J Aaron Farr
gt; > With a feather peaking out :) >> >> Cool idea! :-) > > > sounds good to me > > 1 anyone have any alternative/improvements? > 2 any volunteers for the creation of the logo art? Something like this? http://people.apache.org/~farra/graduated.png I ca

[RESULT] Retire Heraldy from Incubator

2007-06-08 Thread J Aaron Farr
The vote to retire Heraldry from the Incubator as PASSED. Voting +1: 16 (14 binding) J Aaron Farr Matt Pelletier Davanum Sirnivas Robert Burrell Donkin Justin Erenkratz Niclas Hedhman Alex Karasulu Bertrand Delacretaz Dan Quellhorst Ted Leung William Rowe

Re: [VOTE] Retire Heraldry from incubation

2007-06-01 Thread J Aaron Farr
J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a vote to move the Heraldry project from active incubation to > 'retired' status. > > Earlier this year the Heraldry project was reorganized in order to > make another attempt at incubating an OpenID project. Unf

[VOTE] Retire Heraldry from incubation

2007-06-01 Thread J Aaron Farr
roposal and emailing the Incubator PMC. Please vote for the Heraldry Podling Termination: [ ] +1, terminate the Heraldry podling and move to 'retired' [ ] -1, do not terminate the podling at this time -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁

Re: [Fwd: Request for Comments - Pnuts as Incubator Project?!]

2007-05-09 Thread J Aaron Farr
re are a ton of JVM languages now. I wouldn't want to give the impression that a specific one is "sanctioned" by the ASF. In fact, I think it would be cool to see several JVM languages and related research in Apache. I mean, we have a VM now (almost). That could foster some really int

Re: Missing update for site-publish?

2007-04-19 Thread J Aaron Farr
other changes were in. Sorry for the confusion. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: housekeeping ( was Re: [Vote] Graduate Trinidad (to an Apache MyFaces subproject))

2007-04-19 Thread J Aaron Farr
resting to see if the actual metrics live up to what we perceive the incubator as doing. -- J Aaron Farr jadetower.com[US] +1 724-964-4515 馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905 - To un

Re: [VOTE] Approve changing "escalation" to "graduation" in Incubator Policy

2007-04-17 Thread J Aaron Farr
+1 Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ ] +1 approve the patch to change "escalation" to "graduation" in > Incubator Policy > > [ ] -1 don't approve the patch > > I've attached the JIRA reference [1] and formatted html page [2] so > you don't need to apply the patch to see what it wi

Re: [ApacheCon - session] Incubating Open Source Communities

2007-04-05 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there is a session, called "Incubating Open Source Communities" by J. > Aaron Farr. > Is this a similar session, like we did in Austin? Or a *general* > session on the Apache Incubator? > > (there is

Re: [VOTE] Accept Revised Heraldry ACL

2007-03-31 Thread J Aaron Farr
Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ ] +1 accept the new Heraldry ACL and PPMC > [ ] +0 no opinion > [ ] -1 do not accept the new Heraldry ACL (thereby terminating the > Heraldry podling) +1 -- jaaron - To unsubscrib

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread J Aaron Farr
Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for > Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people > jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heraldry, I > did it thinking that I was one of three mentors. I'm

Re: March Board reports due

2007-03-22 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone other than me reviewed these reports? We had gotten extra time > due to the Board rescheduling its meeting, which is why I haven't been > pushing, but I'd like to post the report by Sunday, preferably on Friday > (I'll do another pass thr

Re: [VOTE] Tika - a content analysis toolkit

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Jukka Zitting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please vote on the proposal that follows. The vote is open for the > next 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding. [X] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling Good luck! -- jaaron --

Re: New project by committer...

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I would like to start a new project in the incubator. >> > It will be a from scratch effort, and I have some friends who are >> > eager to help out. >> please see http://labs.a

Re: [VOTE] Should we treat incubator releases differently to normal releases

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Two parts to the vote: > > ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). YES (+1) Assuming "normal place" means something like dist/incubator not /dist/{podling} > TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository. +0

Re: Difference between Maven repository and dist directory

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is everyone in ASF willing to be comfortable with the ASF stamp of > approval on a project that might still be in the process of vetting > code provenance, or still checking licenses, but chooses to do an > incubating release anyway? No, of course

Re: Incentive for Graduation

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Niclas, > > Here the scenario is a project with all committers from one employer > and regular releases. Then they shouldn't have regular releases. I think Niclas's suggestions on community requirements for releases are fine, particularly for podl

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > #1) End user using an Incubator podling m2 artifact directly: End > users need to specify our repo in their pom.xml explicity. this is a > conscious decision. > > #2) End user using a regular Apache project that depends on incubator > podling artifa

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jukka Zitting wrote: >> Agreed. Once a release is out the only restrictions we place on it's >> use and distribution should be the ASLv2. > > The Apache License does not give ASF projects carte blanche to > ignore ASF policy. But Jukka is right in t

Re: March Board reports due

2007-03-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This month's ASF Board reports should be written up on the wiki at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2007 > > River and Woden are not nearly detailed enough. We need status, issues > required for graduation, etc. Not just the project descri

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tika, a content analysis toolkit

2007-03-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
> This is a proposal to start a content analysis toolkit project in the > Apache Incubator. The live version of the proposal is available at > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TikaProposal. +1 Looks like a good fit. -- jaaron

Re: [VOTE] [RETRY] Release of Apache XAP 0.3.0

2007-02-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
>> Please cast your votes: >> >> [ ] +1 Release is approved >> [ ] -1 Veto the release (provide specific comments) Looks good +1 -- jaaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-02-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, > > This is a vote on a previously posted proposal to start a rdf > database server project at apache. The entire proposal text is > included below. There is only one change from the one posted to the > [proposal] thread -- we will start without a t

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-30 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Garrett Rooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would avoid creating a -user list until it's actually proven > necessary. In the beginning keeping user questions on the dev list > makes sense to me. Me too. One less mailing list to deal with is always a good thing. -- jaaron -

Re: [proposal] TripleSoup - a SPARQL endpoint for httpd

2007-01-29 Thread J Aaron Farr
Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, > > This is a proposal to start a rdf database server project at apache. > > What do you think? About time! :-) +1 -- jaaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a

Re: [VOTE] Felix Graduation

2007-01-20 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/17/07, Richard S. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Felix community feels that we are ready for graduation, as indicated by the following community vote to request graduation: +1 -- jaaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [E

Re: [VOTE] graduate Solr to Lucene

2007-01-15 Thread J Aaron Farr
"Yonik Seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Solr community has voted and believes Solr is ready for graduation > from the Incubator and has met all incubation requirements, and the > Lucene PMC has voted to accept Solr. > > The Solr podling is therefore requesting to graduate from the > Incub

Re: Making a non ASF project, ASF friendly

2007-01-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/7/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't agree. Any AL2 licensed work can be included in an ASF distribution, as a dependency. In terms of committing a piece of work that is not under our IP (and is not covered by a CLA), the Apache license doesn't make it a given. You would s

Re: Making a non ASF project, ASF friendly

2007-01-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/6/07, Chris Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Scenario: A project (Project A) is set up on Source Forge by individuals as the only legal entities. Project A is setup under the Apache License V2. What would Project A need to do beforehand to ensure that all code committed to Project A's SVN

Re: RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At this time you have, or will have, the required number of votes. We just need to see the Board resolution. I just sent a draft to the OFBiz mailing list. We'll have a resolution posted here soon. -- jaaron -

Re: RE: [VOTE] Graduate OFBiz Podling

2006-11-14 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/14/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for my own vote, -1 on a procedural basis: > Based on early discussion about OFBiz at the ASF (around the time > OFBiz entered the incubator) the best place for the project seems > to be as a top level project (TLP). This is a separate

Re: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/6/06, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand it is good practice to restart a vote if the vote thread becomes heavy with discussion. This is the case with the vote that was begun at http://www.mail-archive.com/general@incubator.apache.org/msg11201.html which contains some i

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2006-11-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So how do we retire a project? My checklist so far is: * move Agila to the Retired section of the Incubator site, * inform -dev/-user mailing lists (earlier than the rest) * ask that the mailing lists be shutdown, * update the wiki, * update

Re: [VOTE] Retire AltRMI

2006-11-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/6/06, peter royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The AltRMI podling, has become stagnant. Here is a vote to move it into retirement. [ ] -1 : It lives on, you someone missed my recent commits on it last week [ ] 0 : I don't do fall cleansing

Re: Re: IRC chats

2006-10-10 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 10/10/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, I'd urge against IRC chats, but if you're careful, it can work. -- justin I agree with Justin's concerns. That said, I've seen carefully planned and executed IRC chats work very well. That includes having an agenda and to limit u

Re: Anyone up for a docathon at ApacheCon Austin?

2006-10-03 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 10/2/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been holding onto posts with good fodder for the incubator site, but haven't had time to incorporate them yet. I'll be at the hackathon on Tuesday Oct 10. Is anyone else up for a docathon? (Or did I miss a post already suggesting one?

Re: [VOTE] Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-02 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 10/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do too. And with the number of projects coming in with sizeable numbers of committers these days, I wonder how long it will be before the committers coming in this way will outnumber those whose committership is based on (ASF earned) merit.

Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a graduation criteria. And > (hopefully) with Upayvira as the initial PMC Chair, I am not worried that the > PMC will overlook release req

Re: [rant] seperate policy change from proposal discussion

2006-08-08 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 8/8/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps we should try and seperate this somewhat more rigidly. Eg we could have a "released" version of all the things we want a project to do and/or comply with (this is our website) and we could have an "in progress" version of the same thing (t

Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator

2006-08-04 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 8/3/06, Mads Toftum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:54:14PM -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: > I'm sorry, but I have to vote -1 (binding). > I very much agree with Garretts concerns - and would be much in favor of not bringing the project into incubation before they have prov

Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator

2006-08-03 Thread J Aaron Farr
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Re: [Proposal] Blaze

2006-07-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 7/18/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Comments in line: On Jul 17, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > == Interactions with the specifications == > The specification is being developed by group of companies, under a > contract that requires the resulting work to be publ

Re: Dormancy

2006-07-17 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 7/17/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd suggest that the PMC declare a project as dormant, with the effect being that we set the SVN ACL to read-only. If people want to wake the project up, we can change the ACL. +1 I'm not sure what would be best for the mailing list. If

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that mailing-lists are part of the foundation of the ASF and > are a really useful way to communicate effectively. However my feeling > is that we don't have the right tools or policies to use them as > effectively as could be. For examp

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 2/13/06, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > J Aaron, > > thanks for your feedback. > Sorry but I still have some doubts about this: > > if a guy signs an iCLA in which he states that he agrees to release > under the ASL all the work (present and future) that he sends to the ASF > (th

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-13 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 2/13/06, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > here at OFBiz we'd like to go on with the IP-clearance effort but, since > we are going to contact *many* developers, we would like to be sure that > the steps we'll perform are the correct ones. > > Anyone here could help us to

Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-08 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 2/8/06, David E. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Under the MIT license we have been using there is no assignment or > granting of copyright. All of the code is licensed under the MIT > license, and the copyright everywhere is listed under "The Open For > Business Project". I don't know if th

[VOTE-RESULT] OFBiz Proposal - PASSED

2006-01-31 Thread J Aaron Farr
Results of the vote [1] on the OFBiz proposal [2] : +1 J Aaron Farr +1 Henri Yandell -1 Mads Toftum (*) +1 Niclas Hedhman +1 Ross Gardler +1 Martin van den Bemt +1 Justin Erenkrantz +1 David Jones +1 David Welton +1 Upayavira +1 Yoav Shapira * - Mads stated his

Re: [RANT] Mission of the incubator

2006-01-27 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/27/06, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I DO care more about is communities and the people that make them > up. As I have come to believe that tasks assigned to many are > effectively assigned to nobody, I would prefer that there be either a > single or primary mentor for Kabuki.

Re: Roles (was OFBiz proposal)

2006-01-27 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/26/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David N. Welton wrote: > > > Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > > Where are the mentors? Are the champions also going > > > to mentor the project? > > > According to the docs I read, the incubator PMC is supposed to assign > > them. > > The docs sti

Re: [VOTE] OFBiz Proposal

2006-01-25 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/25/06, David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > >> * David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> * Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> * J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Whe

[OT] Kabuki Proposal -- Eclipse Plugins

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
Since I don't really know my way around the Eclipse community very well, I thought I might ask the question here. I was really interested in the Eclipse portion of the original Kabuki proposal but that's now been kicked over to the Eclipse foundation. So, does anyone know where I can join in on t

[VOTE] OFBiz Proposal

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
y in the open source world. == Committers == * David E. Jones * Andy Zeneski * Si Chen * Al Byers * Jacopo Cappellato * Hans Bakker == Proposed Apache Sponsor == Incubator PMC == Champions == * David N. Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF

2006-01-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/22/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is also good to try to ensure that discussion has settled down, and that > there is a consensus before calling for the vote. I generally believe that > a good ASF vote isn't called to make a decision; it is called to ratify one. Exactly.

Re: OFBiz Marketing and Services

2006-01-19 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 1/19/06, Al Byers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > J Aaron, > > As one of the committers, I would have no problem have any reference to my > company removed, if that is necessary for the process to continue. Well, the references don't necessarily have to be removed. Other ASF projects provide link

OFBiz Marketing and Services

2006-01-18 Thread J Aaron Farr
Hello all. The current OFBiz project has a lot of material on marketing and services. I'm wondering how the team anticipates they'll handle this material during the incubation transition. We encourage commercial use of ASF products and we support efforts to build companies around them. So there

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