Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 released

2018-07-29 Thread Emilian Bold
> Announcements of incubating releases must include the standard disclaimer. I've read that release *artifacts* must include the disclaimer. Where is the announcement email content specified? > Please link instead to > > https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/netbeans/KEYS OK. > Please don't li

[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 released

2018-07-29 Thread Emilian Bold
EANS Emilian Bold on behalf of Apache NetBeans PPMC 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ab58e2c75d260a91851d8def412b1ef6648aaf4f690b205aaaf53924@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsu

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

2018-07-28 Thread Emilian Bold
. I will proceed to publish the release and send ANNOUNCE. On behalf of the Apache NetBeans podling, thank you! --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 24 July 2018 8:27 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Hi all, > > The Apache NetBeans community has voted on and approved a proposal to release

[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

2018-07-23 Thread Emilian Bold
vote! The vote is open for 5 days. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... Emilia

Re: Suggestion for podling reminder report emails.

2018-06-09 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 Maybe the script just BCCs all the podlings, otherwise it should be a small change to make. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 10 June 2018 12:28 AM, Edward Capriolo wrote: > Hey all, > > I have been personally slacking a bit, but I wanted to point something out. > > I subscribe

Re: Fwd: graphviz as a potential apache project

2018-06-03 Thread Emilian Bold
Apache NetBeans is a pretty big and mature project too and it's still undergoing incubation. The advantage for NetBeans is that Sun Microsystems / Oracle owns all the IP and just donated it to Apache. It might be a bit more complicated for Graphviz. That being said, I'm totally +1 on Graphviz,

[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 RC1 released

2018-05-28 Thread Emilian Bold
: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS Emilian Bold on behalf of Apache NetBeans PPMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-28 Thread Emilian Bold
NetBeans community voted +1 in the PPMC vote for this release, one Apache NetBeans PPMC member voted -1. I will proceed to publish the release and send ANNOUNCE. On behalf of the Apache NetBeans podling, thank you! --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 21 May 2018 1:33 AM, Emilian Bold

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-27 Thread Emilian Bold
Silly question but must Apache releases include test data? Is there a restriction on such minor binary files in the repository or just binary files in the release zip? I see no problem excluding all the tests in future NetBeans releases. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 27 May 2018 7

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-24 Thread Emilian Bold
Thanks Ate! We still need a few more votes this week the close voting. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 23 May 2018 11:44 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 2018-05-23 20:57, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > Ate, could we get a vote on this release? > > Sure :-) > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-23 Thread Emilian Bold
ubator-general/201801.mbox/ > > [3] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3 > > On 2018-05-21 00:33, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The Apache NetBeans community

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-23 Thread Emilian Bold
nal Message ‐‐‐ On 23 May 2018 4:07 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Emilian Bold > > emilian.b...@protonmail.ch wrote: > > > We now kindly request that the Incubator PMC members review and vote on > > this incubator release cand

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-22 Thread Emilian Bold
[2] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201801.mbox/ > > [3] > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3 > > On 2018-05-21 00:33, Emilian Bold wrote: &g

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-21 Thread Emilian Bold
/issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-821 to keep track of this. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 21 May 2018 6:44 PM, sebb wrote: > On 20 May 2018 at 23:33, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > The Apache NetBeans communi

[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-20 Thread Emilian Bold
[ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... Emilian Bold on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubato

Re: [VOTE] Drop incubating requirement of Maven artifacts

2017-01-05 Thread Emilian Bold
> I would favor a system of marker(s) indicating the code maturity (incl legal) There is no standard afaik to indicate legal or community 'maturity'. It would be something for a (RDF) vocabulary for artifacts to be adopted industry wide. Right now none of the Maven coordinates are a good fit fo

Re: Omitting "-incubating" suffix in Maven artifact version attribute for FreeMarker

2016-12-29 Thread Emilian Bold
I wonder how much analysys there was done before picking this -incubating suffix. It's really ASF specific and I doubt that most end users know what it is supposed to mean. An embryo undergoes incubation so it's easy to see how -incubating is associated with an alpha product. În joi, 29 dec. 20

Re: Omitting "-incubating" suffix in Maven artifact version attribute for FreeMarker

2016-12-28 Thread Emilian Bold
> I personally have received negative feedback from both colleagues and management on the use of projects with the name "incubating" in them, putting them into the same category as alpha or beta software. So true. > It'd be far preferable, IMO, for IPMC to drop the suffix requirement entirely I

Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2

2016-11-29 Thread Emilian Bold
The subject is a bit odd, but isn't https://github.com/apache an official Apache Software Foundation repository? And https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/releases with the big blue Releases button seems suggestive (or confusing) to downstream users. The solution, due to GitHub's quirk, is t

Re: [VOTE] Weex to enter the Apache Incubator

2016-11-25 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 (non-binding) --emi On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Bono Lv wrote: > > The proposal was updated to add ASF id of our Champion and Mentors... > > Ok thanks, +1 for accepting the podling! > -Bertrand > > -

Re: [DISCUSS] Weex for Apache Incubator

2016-11-22 Thread Emilian Bold
ems reasonable to me: > the comments in this thread should be considered friendly advice, nothing more. So there is no incubation-impacting decision to be made here. În mar., 22 nov. 2016 la 15:03 Jochen Wiedmann a scris: On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > How can the proj

Re: [DISCUSS] Weex for Apache Incubator

2016-11-22 Thread Emilian Bold
How can the project name be a problem when "weex" sounds to me like the very common English word *weeks*? So unless somebody really plans to veto the incubation proposal due to this very minor linguistic issue and considering the fact that the project has some history and is already publicly known

Re: [DISCUSS] China Contribution. (was: RocketMQ Incubation Proposal)

2016-11-11 Thread Emilian Bold
I believe the working language[1] of ASF projects is English. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_language În Vin, 11 nov. 2016 la 11:13 Bertrand Delacretaz a scris: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman > wrote: > > ...there have been language specific mailing lists in the

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Emilian Bold
AM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > Would hipchat be logged somewhere? > > > > Is it possible to be at least some weekly digest email? > > That might be possible. See INFRA-12328. > > Jochen > > -- > The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Emilian Bold
Would hipchat be logged somewhere? Is it possible to be at least some weekly digest email? Pe joi, 3 noiembrie 2016, John D. Ament a scris: > All, > > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made use of > it. I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup an

Re: Netbeans expectations (Was: Re: ASF doing too much? (Was: Re: TAC))

2016-09-28 Thread Emilian Bold
> 3) You write how the topic of "what value does the ASF provide to my project" comes up quite frequently in the incubator. Unless already done, I would like to see this documented under some stable URL to point people to. Not only do I get this question to from time to time, it might also help oth

Re: Radical proposal: no initial list of committers

2016-09-27 Thread Emilian Bold
Considering the effort that went into this and the fact that we had just reached a point where we could move on past this list, I hope you start using this new rule for the next project submitted. Pe marți, 27 septembrie 2016, Greg Stein a scris: > The NetBeans proposal (among many others in the

Preliminary NetBeans cost findings (was: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal)

2016-09-25 Thread Emilian Bold
Ross Gardler is the current president of the ASF so in a way he does sign the check and should be worried about these things. Still, the number of Java developers is only growing and they need an IDE and NetBeans is a major IDE with 1.5 million individual users! This number is probably conservativ

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-24 Thread Emilian Bold
A NetBeans release is produced from the NetBeans Mercurial repository. All the language modules: Java, Javascript, C/C++, etc. you see there after install are Oracle / NetBeans code. The Plugins Portal has some other, 3rd party modules which don't come bundled with the official builds but users ar

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-24 Thread Emilian Bold
> hg doesn't have the committer/author separation like GIT has, right? :( > I don't believe it does, yet. > In the ASF it's good practice to give credits to the patch contributor in > the commit, e.g. > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5bafa2ba5977ab88c8dfe376c97568 > 25d948bce9afd3b69aa69

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-24 Thread Emilian Bold
ve again, then it's just a matter of 72h > (VOTE time) to get him on board. > > BUT: we must clearly communicate that we start with a limited committer > list simply because WE fail to compose a correct one from the very start. > But people should know that we will fix this li

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-23 Thread Emilian Bold
So on one hand the initial commiters list is not something so important and we should realy just be careful about the PPMC then vote more commiters during incubation. On the other hand the initial commiters list is super important. Is there some actual incubation documentation clearing this up?

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-20 Thread Emilian Bold
> > git clone of the Linus' repo takes 3 minutes. > > The hg clone of netbeans took 5 HOURS! > This is surely dependent on the network and the server the git/hg client talks to. > The repo size is 3.6GB. But it contains many binaries which we could > probably strip off. > I really don't like to