Greetings khirano,
> Can you tell me what "podling" is?
"podling" is a made up (meaning invented) word that the ASF uses to refer to
a project in the incubation stage. The word "podling" is formed by the root
word "pod" (which should be in your dictionary) and the suffix "-ling" which
means "sma
> Sam wrote:
> Before proceeding, I would like to seek advice from our counsel. I also
want to proceed based
> on specific patent infringement concerns and not on abstract
hypotheticals. However, I don't
> want to spend valuable time on this until we decide whether or not to
accept this project f
Noel,
I think your labels "Conclusion" and "Supporting statements" are incorrect,
and that might explain why you "fail to see how you draw the conclusion from
the supporting arguments". The paragraph in question may contain more than
one conclusion, and it may contain one or more opinions which t
> Jim Jagielski wote:
> Seems that some people are not happy with my outreach to the communties,
or whatever...
> There are plenty of suggestions and posts on things that I have done
wrong, or did not do,
> or did not due to someone's satisfaction.
> If people want, I will happily remove myself as
>> "However, I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home
>> for the OO.o project in the long run," Meeks said.
When I read that, I also did not see anything offensive. I believe when
Michael said that he was thinking of OOo as he knows it, which is a desktop
application. The ASF h
> Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might
want to do that.
> Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name only
one!) ... If somebody
> can say what list that ASF people could subscribe to, then something like
this could happen.
Personally, I woul
> As a Incubator PMC member, I'd like to hear what the TDF folks think about
this suggested path.
> In the end the people who do the day-to-day work will end up collaborating
or not...But, here's
> my +1 that implies that i'd like folks who are signing on to this podling
do their best to make this
>> If this is how guests are going to be treated here at ASF, then yes,
>> we'll take it elsewhere and IBM can go it alone.
> OK... I offer my apologies... I agree that this has gotten quite heated
and gone w offbase.
> I admit my culpability in my actions which have allowed it and apolog
> I suggest you stick to the content of the e-mails on the list, Jim.
> Yes, I am concerned about how this all came about, but the reason I am
> here on the list is to be constructive and not to be bitch-slapped and
> misrepresented just for showing up.
> This email has no place on this list.
> Are you ready to call for a vote? :)
I think you need to allow a little time for people to read what has been
written, absorb and reflect on it, and react appropriately. And I'm not
(just) talking about ASF members--I'm talking about the potentially larger
community. Rushing things will not he
>>> Which is why I raised the question regarding TDF's ability to
>>> relicense all of the contributions it has received.
>>
>> As I understand it Noel, TDF accepts contributions under open source
>> licenses alone and unlike ASF does not require a contributor license
>> agreement, so is unable
> What is wrong about the TDF that is better at ASF, for being the home of a
free office suite?
Let me restate that a little bit differently that might answer some other
issues that have been raised.
IBM's interest in the OpenOffice code primarily relates to its proprietary
IBM Lotus Symphony der
> - What is wrong about the TDF that is better at ASF, for being the home of
a free office suite?
It is not clear to what extent the choice of the ASF was driven by Oracle,
and you probably won't get either Oracle or IBM to talk about that.
However, to the extent that it was driven by Oracle, that
> When this question comes up I've been asking the commenter to give a
reasoned estimate for how
> many volunteers will be needed. I'm generally seeing that 20 core
developers are needed for project
> maintenance. Some suggest more is needed for incubation, but I think this
might be a shifting pa
> (3) There is even talk as to why? I'm also curious as to why they would
need or want to transfer the project to Apache.
Only the person who made that decision knows the answer, and if you ask
them, you might get an answer, and it might even be the real answer. But
you never know.
I will off
Hello Simon,
This is a noble proposal, but there are is an important prerequisite. The
LibreOffice is currently only accepting contributions licensed under the
LGPL. The LibreOffice project cannot take those contributions and insert
them into an Apache Licensed project without the approval of th
As a long time member of the OpenOffice.org community, I would like to offer
my thoughts on the Oracle/IBM proposal.
For a long time, we had the situation where Sun released OpenOffice under
the LGPL, but insisted that any contributions to the official OpenOffice
distribution include a copyright a
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