AW: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Christofer Dutz
I mean … I think I have never really been confused if someone used “PMC” or “PMC member” as from the context it was clear. What however I really hate to see in emails is people using short forms LMAA, WTF, IANAL, STFU, … this list is long and obviously I listed the ones I knew. Quite often when p

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Duo Zhang
Hi, Justin, about the proposal, we have already mentioned that 'with the current contributors primarily coming from Xiaomi', and also 'the majority of core developers working on the OzHera project are salaried by Xiaomi', which reflects the current status of the project. Let me put the related sec

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Is this considered a blocker for a project to enter incubator? I do > see it could be a concern during the project's graduation, but for > entering into incubator as well? It is a concern on entering the incubator, especially for a project that has been open source for some time. It would

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > Are there any remaining inaccuracies in the proposal? Yes I believe there are: "Outstanding contributors are the cornerstone of this project, and they include not only developers from Xiaomi and other companies but also individual developers who are encouraged to contribute. In this proje

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Yuanbo Liu
Also it's driving me crazy to see native speakers saying "...not...no more". Teachers tell me it is supposed to be "any more".. On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:03 AM tison wrote: > ... and yes. For non-native speakers, it's possible to feel less > uncomfortable to use "PMC" as an abbr. to PMC members.

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Jack Ye
+1 to about the situation for non English speaking environment. They just don't know what it means. >From my personal experience, I think the term PMC is misused to mean PMC members even in English speaking environment just because of the fact that PMC itself is already an acronym that is easy to

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread tison
... and yes. For non-native speakers, it's possible to feel less uncomfortable to use "PMC" as an abbr. to PMC members. Just .. as an opaque term. Best, tison. Xuanwo 于2024年7月2日周二 19:56写道: > > This thread reminds me of tison's proposal that use "Maintainer" instead of > "PMC Member". > > https:

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread tison
> Maybe explain it from your perspective as a speaker of Mandarin Hi Dave, I have two answers for why this misuse is so wide. 1. Some important connection points in the local Apache community give the wrong practice. Let me name some of them, and please do not interpret it as a blame. I saw blo

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Xuanwo
This thread reminds me of tison's proposal that use "Maintainer" instead of "PMC Member". https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw On Wed, Jul 3, 2024, at 10:04, Jiacai Liu wrote: >> And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong >> thing *or* >> get int

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Jiacai Liu
And, we can all be tired, overworked, or lazy and say the wrong thing *or* get into bad habits. Thank John for your kindly understanding. Also as a non-native English speaker, when I see abbreviation like PMC, my first insight is this word could be used on its own, `PMC member` looks a li

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread John Gemignani
My 2 cents as being a PMC member and once part of incubation,... To be honest, I've never really paid much attention when someone stated they're a PMC. I knew what was meant and just auto corrected it in my head. I have used, without fully thinking about it, PMC as, "I am a PMC" as well. When I me

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Tison, I’m sympathetic as well. > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:11 PM, tison wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > I saw this kind of thread many times, and I also corrected it dozens > of times. Actually, this is part of the reason for [1] ("Maintainer" > as an alias of PMC Member?). > > [1] https://lists.apach

Re: PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread tison
Hi Greg, I saw this kind of thread many times, and I also corrected it dozens of times. Actually, this is part of the reason for [1] ("Maintainer" as an alias of PMC Member?). [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xsjojmksqtnsdjcg0yf4vz0xy82llhmw Somehow, I share the sympathy for non-native speake

PMC is a committee

2024-07-02 Thread Greg Stein
Hello all, I am getting really tired of seeing people refer to *MEMBERS* of a PMC as "PMCs". PMC stands for Project Management Committee. You have MEMBERS of that PMC. People are never to be called a PMC, nor a group of them as PMCs. People are not committees. The acronym "PMC" is short for a c

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Ayush Saxena
No skin in the game opinion > a single corporate entity is behind it Is this considered a blocker for a project to enter incubator? I do see it could be a concern during the project's graduation, but for entering into incubator as well? Some folks developed the project at their org, they are opesn

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread PJ Fanning
Are there any remaining inaccuracies in the proposal? Is it possible that we can try to build the community while OzHera is part of the Incubator? If the team can't attract outside committers then they will find it hard to graduate as a TLP. On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 13:05, Justin Mclean wrote: > > H

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HoraeDB(Incubating) rust client v2.0.0-rc.1

2024-07-02 Thread hulk
+1 binding I checked: [x] Download links are valid. [x] Checksums and PGP signatures are valid. [x] [No unexpected binary files bundled in the source archive. [x] LICENSE/NOTICE/DISCLAIMER files exist. [x] Can compile from source. Compiling horaedb-client v2.0.0 (/Users/hulk/Downloads/apache-

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, -1 (binding) As I said in the discussion thread, I have concerns about this project. The proposal did not accurately reflect its state, it has little or no community around it and a single corporate entity is behind it. Kind Regards, Justin --

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread li gang
+1 (binding) Duo Zhang 于2024年7月1日周一 19:27写道: > Hi Incubator, > > Following the discussion about OzHera[1], I am starting this official > vote for the OzHera project. > > Here is their proposal: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OzHeraProposal > > Please cast your vote: > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Kevin Ratnasekera
+1 ( binding ) On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 11:37 AM 石榴树 <303943...@qq.com.invalid> wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > -- 原始邮件 -- > 发件人: > "general" > <

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Yu Li
+1 (binding) Good luck! Best Regards, Yu On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 17:37, 石榴树 <303943...@qq.com.invalid> wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > -- 原始邮件 -- > 发件人: > "general" >

回复:Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread shanwenbang
+1(non-binding) - 原始邮件 - 发件人:Yu Xiao 收件人:general@incubator.apache.org 主题:Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator 日期:2024年07月02日 17点18分 +1 (binding) Best wishes! dingtao 于2024年7月1日周一 21:44写道: > > +1(non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > > At 2024-07-01 20:05:20, "Nicholas" wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Zhiyong Zhang
+1 (non-binding) At 2024-07-02 16:53:52, "Zuoyan Qin" wrote: >To correct: +1 (non-binding) > >On 2024/07/02 08:48:54 Zuoyan Qin wrote: >> +1 (binding) >> >> On 2024/07/01 11:27:32 Duo Zhang wrote: >> > Hi Incubator, >> > >> > Following the discussion about OzHera[1], I am starting

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Zuoyan Qin
To correct: +1 (non-binding) On 2024/07/02 08:48:54 Zuoyan Qin wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On 2024/07/01 11:27:32 Duo Zhang wrote: > > Hi Incubator, > > > > Following the discussion about OzHera[1], I am starting this official > > vote for the OzHera project. > > > > Here is their proposal: > > h

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Zuoyan Qin
+1 (binding) On 2024/07/01 11:27:32 Duo Zhang wrote: > Hi Incubator, > > Following the discussion about OzHera[1], I am starting this official > vote for the OzHera project. > > Here is their proposal: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OzHeraProposal > > Please cast your v

[VOTE] Release Apache HoraeDB(Incubating) rust client v2.0.0-rc.1

2024-07-02 Thread Jiacai Liu
Hello, This is a call for a vote to release Apache HoraeDB(incubating) rust client version v2.0.0. The tag to be voted on is v2.0.0-rc.1 The vote thread: https://lists.apache.org/thread/yr6plq4176d5xyh1v0h2pjtgt61rkrb6 Vote Result: https://lists.apache.org/thread/nvnpxnbf96b7dj05lwdp9knv2d3w

Re: [VOTE] Accept OzHera into the ASF incubator

2024-07-02 Thread Yu Xiao
+1 (binding) Best wishes! dingtao 于2024年7月1日周一 21:44写道: > > +1(non-binding) > > > > > > > > > > > At 2024-07-01 20:05:20, "Nicholas" wrote: > > >+1 (non-binding)Regards,Nicholas Jiang > > > >At 2024-07-01 19:33:59, "Francis Chuang" wrote: > >>+1 (binding) > >> > >>On 1/07/2024 9:27 pm, Duo Zh