Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

2019-06-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, I think a lot of frustration with the Apache incubation process could be avoided simply by very explicitly asking this question to a community planning to start incubation: “Are you aware that until you complete incubation you will not be in full control of your project, for example, please s

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-30 Thread Alex Harui
FWIW, I reconcile it as: Incubator is a PMC and must record a business decision to call something an ASF release in order to place that release under the legal protection of the ASF. ASF releases may have policy non-compliance issues. No TLP can decide on its own to never comply with policy.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.10.0-incubating-rc04

2019-06-30 Thread ShaoFeng Shi
+1 I have checked: 1. Download links are all good. 2. Checksums and PGP signatures are OK. 3. LICENSE and NOTICE files are all corrected. Best regards, Shaofeng Shi 史少锋 Apache Kylin PMC Email: shaofeng...@apache.org Apache Kylin FAQ: https://kylin.apache.org/docs/gettingstarted/faq.html Join K

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

2019-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Geertjan Wielenga wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 18:14:52 +0200: > Any community joining Apache should be very clear in their own minds that > the Incubator is there for them to get used to the Apache Way. It is not > there for getting releases done in the same cadence as before the community > ente

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-06-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Justin Mclean wrote on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:39:22 +1000: > I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]. Fullquote of the link: > Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software > Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP sponso

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-30 Thread Davor Bonaci
I do -not- have a problem where this is all tracking towards and believe it is right, but I do have a problem with how it is justified and explained. People say: "Incubator is a PMC/TLP", "Incubator takes on the resultant legal obligations associated w/ any PMC doing a release", "we can NOT allow

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

2019-06-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Any community joining Apache should be very clear in their own minds that the Incubator is there for them to get used to the Apache Way. It is not there for getting releases done in the same cadence as before the community entered the Incubator, nor does it carry the responsibility for that. Until

Re: Podling expectations and some issues encountered in incubation

2019-06-30 Thread Julian Hyde
Thanks for making this list, Justin. Next time I mentor a project, I shall probably convert the list into a presentation (with a few “and here’s the good news” slides at the beginning and end) and schedule a video meeting with a few of the initial committers, leaving plenty of time for question

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flagon (Incubating) v2.0.0

2019-06-30 Thread Joshua Poore
Ok, cool. We’ll get it right on Master. Joshua Poore > On Jun 30, 2019, at 1:19 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > >> Is it just the Copyright symbol that’s incorrect? Or do you see something >> else. Just checking so that I know what to fix. Its the only thing I can see >> as different fro

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.10.0-incubating-rc04

2019-06-30 Thread MingyuChen
Hi Sheng Wu: Thank you for your remind. We just use MySQL client library in Doris so that Doris is able to visit external MySQL table. Without MySQL client library, Doris still works, fully functional. So I think this dependency is OPTIONAL to Doris. On the other hand, we are considering to rep

Draft incubator report

2019-06-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Draft incubator report is up here, as always feedback and edits welcome. Thanks, Justin 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/July2019 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org Fo