Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I don't have a vote here, but I"m now confused about what problem is being > solved As Craig indicates, the goal is to reject ambigous grants, which require interpretation to figure out what's actually being granted. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Craig, On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > ...I do not intend to accept any more such overly ambiguous grants Ok, so you think this vote is not needed? That's fine with me as long as we have a mechanism to avoid ambiguous grants in the future. As our secretary I think

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Spot 1.0-incuabating released

2017-09-07 Thread Diego (ChInO)
Awesome! Good job guys On Thu, Sep 7, 2017, 2:00 PM Raymundo Panduro wrote: > Hi All, > > The Apache Spot (Incubating) Team is proud to announce the release of > Apache Spot 1.0-incubating. > > > This is the first official Spot Release after entering the Apache > Incubator. > > > Apache Spot

[VOTE] Release of Apache Mnemonic-0.9.0-incubating [rc2]

2017-09-07 Thread Johnu George
Hello incubator PMCs, The Apache Mnemonic community PPMCs and developers have voted and approved the proposal to release Apache Mnemonic 0.9.0 (incubating). Apache Mnemonic is an advanced hybrid memory storage oriented library, it's proposed a non-volatile/durable Java object model and durable com

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Spot 1.0-incuabating released

2017-09-07 Thread Raymundo Panduro
Hi All, The Apache Spot (Incubating) Team is proud to announce the release of Apache Spot 1.0-incubating. This is the first official Spot Release after entering the Apache Incubator. Apache Spot (Incubating) leverages insights from flow and packet analysis. It helps enterprises and service pro

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Craig Russell
-1 for an overly broad restriction that needs a bit of discretion. The situation that caused this issue to be raised is that a grant was made of a specific set of files contained in a .zip archive. That set of files contained no non-donated IP. The issue is that the grant had a list of excluded

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Alex Harui
I don't have a vote here, but I"m now confused about what problem is being solved. Is it, as Stian says, that an entity is being lazy and did not attempt to review the contents of the grant before donating? I thought the goal is to just keep folks from bothering us with additional language on the

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Sebastian
+1 On 07.09.2017 10:32, Ted Dunning wrote: +1 On Sep 7, 2017 10:11, "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: +1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) Jacques Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for the code

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > ...Considering that the IPMC is not the one who accepts software grants, what > is your goal here?... Grants are received and accepted by the ASF's secretary, right? Or what do you have in mind? Anyway, the Incubator PMC can make a recommen

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread John D. Ament
Bertrand, Considering that the IPMC is not the one who accepts software grants, what is your goal here? John On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:08 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC. > > We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for > the code donation, but mentioni

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub > Am 07.09.2017 um 10:07 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz : > > Hi Incubator PMC. > > We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for > the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that > archive might not be donated. > > This

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
+1 However it should be OK (and perhaps even encouraged) for the archive to list in NOTICE or similar that some of the files are not legally owned by the donating entity, for instance other open source files that have been used – legally they can’t be part of the IP grant (unless the donating ent

Re: [Incubator Wiki] Update of "September2017" by YuriZ

2017-09-07 Thread Yuri Z
OK, I ll try to fix. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:57 PM John D. Ament wrote: > Yuri, > > Can you fix the report? Looks like you created a bunch of conflicts. > > John > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:47 PM Apache Wiki wrote: > > > Dear Wiki user, > > > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki categ

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 On Sep 7, 2017 10:11, "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: > +1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) > > Jacques > > > Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > >> Hi Incubator PMC. >> >> We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for >> the code donation, but mentioning t

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) Jacques Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that archive might not be donated. This wa

Re: How to handle exclusions in a software grant?

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...Have people seen similar cases before... That doesn't look to be the case and I've just started a VOTE here to reject such grants in the future. -Bertrand - To un

[VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that archive might not be donated. This was discussed on the PMC private list and it looks like we have consensus for rejecting such grants in