Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Hivemall into the Apache Incubator

2016-09-14 Thread Makoto Yui
Hi Roman, Sure. But when I clicked the Whimsy link, user name and password were required. I'll ask the following questions on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12608 Thanks, Makoto 2016-09-15 13:16 GMT+09:00 Roman Shaposhnik : > Hi! > > mailing lists for the Hivemall podling have been

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Hivemall into the Apache Incubator

2016-09-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! mailing lists for the Hivemall podling have been created. Mentors, please make sure to subscribe to at least dev@ and private@. You can do it the regular way or via Whimsy: https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe I've also filed a top level JIRA that is tracking bootstraping of Hiv

Re: SGA or ICLA?

2016-09-14 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
Thanks for the clarification Craig. I like the idea of ICLA over SGA for individuals since it sets people up to contribute to more than one project. With an ICLA on file, it makes it that much easier to add someone as a committer/PMC Member to any project. -Taylor > On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:29 PM

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Greg Stein wrote on 9/14/16 7:40 PM: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: >> ... > I think the question is more along the lines of what else would be required to produce a "canonical" release of Apache Netbeans. If everything that is required is being donate

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: >... > >> I think the question is more along the lines of what else would be > >> required to produce a "canonical" > >> release of Apache Netbeans. If everything that is required is being > >> donated -- I think we're good. > > Indeed - and r

Re: SGA or ICLA?

2016-09-14 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Taylor, My advice is to simply get ICLAs for all past, present, and future contributors to the project. That will cover Apache’s requirements. If you have people who for whatever reason won’t sign the ICLA, perhaps you can bring their concerns back here. Regards, Criag > On Sep 14, 2016,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Trying to answer two questions: Geertjan Wielenga wrote on 9/14/16 3:49 PM: > I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by > its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we > all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is N

SGA or ICLA?

2016-09-14 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
I’m about to go through the IP clearance process for some code donations and will need to track down some individuals and ask them to sign and Agreement (SGA or ICLA). It seems clear to me that the primary author should submit a SGA, but it’s not clear which to use for other individuals who mad

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Brilliant! On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 2016-09-14 21:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >> I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by >> its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we >> all start maintaining that,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-14 21:49, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is NetBeans or, better yet, Apache NetB

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-14 21:43, Ate Douma wrote: On 2016-09-14 17:14, David Nalley wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: ...there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate any code from anywhe

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I can't wait for that to happen! In the meantime, can we call NetBeans by its real name: NetBeans, with an uppercase N and an uppercase B? Shall we all start maintaining that, i.e., using the correct name, which is NetBeans or, better yet, Apache NetBeans? Yes, Oracle is handing over everything in

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Ate Douma
On 2016-09-14 17:14, David Nalley wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: ...there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone el

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Mark Struberg
Good point: The ASF (actually the single PMCs of the ASF) do handle trademark rules pretty strictly: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ The main reason is that we a.) need to defend the marks, otherwise they vanish and could be (ab-)used by anyone b.) as a non-for-profit organisation

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Wade Chandler wrote: > Do you mean from the stand point of it being a Java based application, or > that some how > NetBeans and the Java TCK are related? I don’t think either is an impact on > NetBeans IMHO; > not any more than it is for the Eclipse IDE or Intel

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Wade Chandler
Do you mean from the stand point of it being a Java based application, or that some how NetBeans and the Java TCK are related? I don’t think either is an impact on NetBeans IMHO; not any more than it is for the Eclipse IDE or IntelliJ. Do you mean because it is being contributed by Oracle perhap

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Given the historical difficulty in securing usable Java-related TCK licenses from Oracle, will that be an issue in attracting long-term contributors to the project in the future? A number of existing Apache projects have noted that lack of proper and formal access to TCKs is an issue for some of t

Re: [DISCUSS] Spot Incubation Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Doug Cutting
Lars, You are correct, there is overlap between this and Metron. They were independently started by different teams and with different architectures. At the present time both projects are well aware of one another and choose to continue to pursue separate efforts. Spot has been an Intel-led pro

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: >> ...there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate >> any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone else. It simply >> contains binari

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 09/14/2016 03:51 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: >> >> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:38, Wade Chandler wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno >> > wrote: >>> >>> On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: NetBeans.org has forum

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Mark Struberg
Yes, but that mails usually need to be manually moderated through (spam prevention). LieGrue, strub > On Wednesday, 14 September 2016, 15:51, Wade Chandler > wrote: > >> >> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:38, Wade Chandler > wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Wade Chandler
> > On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:38, Wade Chandler wrote: > >> >> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno > > wrote: >> >> On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>> NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing >>> lists (well, not al

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Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 09:28, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing lists >> (well, not always, >> sometimes we've had syncing problems). My feeling is that since Apache >> doesn't suppor

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 09/14/2016 03:17 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing lists (well, not always, > sometimes we've had syncing problems). My feeling is that since Apache > doesn't support forums, we could simply drop them. No need to convert the > forums to mailing lists,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Mark Struberg
Just an idea for the binary distribution question (probably a crazy one): We could distribute those plugins to maven.central and simply maintain a list of plugins with the GAV coordinates in the core project. Ofc we would need to talk with Maven folks about that idea first. And also probabl

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
NetBeans.org has forums that mirror the mailing lists (well, not always, sometimes we've had syncing problems). My feeling is that since Apache doesn't support forums, we could simply drop them. No need to convert the forums to mailing lists, instead our mailing lists will need to be moved if possi

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate > any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone else. It simply > contains binaries... Thanks for the clarification. This confirms my view, I don't th

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> ...taking press requests is *not* part of mentor duties of course > > Speak for yourself. I have certainly done a number of interviews and > quotes for up and coming pro

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Indeed, there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone else. It simply contains binaries, i.e., NBM files, which are ZIP archives containing a JAR together with some metadata needed for installing it. Quite a few of them a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > I am unaware, that taking press requests is part of mentor duties. One > > reason to hesitate in the future. > > Sorry, I should have used a larger smiley...taking press requests is > *not* part of mentor duties of course. Speak fo

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sep 14, 2016, at 04:02, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:22 PM, David Nalley wrote: ...SIR03 Migration of plugin publication system, plugins.netbeans.org, to Apache infrastructure >> >> This looks to be an interesting. Are the plugins gated by license? Any

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Many thanks everyone for the enthusiasm and also for the new mentors -- indeed, an infrastructure-focused mentor or two will be really relevant. We have of course had several discussions and mail exchanges with our mentors before publishing the proposal. The bottom line is, we want to fit into the

Re: Wiki Write access

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Shreyaank Byadagi wrote: > ...I want "karma" access to incubator Fineract documentation, and my login > user Id is "shreyaank". ... What's the URL of what you want to edit? I suppose that might be specific to Fineract so you'd need to ask there. -Bertrand

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Emmanuel, On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: > ...Better have a hard core set of mentors from the beginning than having a > bunch of people that will quit during incubation, IMHO... Ok, ok, if you insist on being removed from the mentors list I guess we will reluctantl

Wiki Write access

2016-09-14 Thread Shreyaank Byadagi
Hi, I want "karma" access to incubator Fineract documentation, and my login user Id is "shreyaank". -- Thanks and Regards Shreyaank

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny > wrote: > > Jim, I would be pleased to pass you the batton. You most certainly will > be > > a better mentor than I could be > > With all due respect to both of you guys

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:22 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> ...SIR03 Migration of plugin publication system, plugins.netbeans.org, to >>> Apache infrastructure > > This looks to be an interesting. Are the plugins gated by license? Any > vetting going on? Is there a history of DMCA requests being ser

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > ...Daniel of course has a much deeper expertise for infra as I'm mostly an > occasional tinkerer > and Daniel is one of our core server admins. > > Feel free to swap me out in favour of him... Why in general I think we shouldn't have t

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal

2016-09-14 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: > Jim, I would be pleased to pass you the batton. You most certainly will be > a better mentor than I could be With all due respect to both of you guys that's hard to estimate upfront ;-) Unless one of you envisions constraints l

Edit access

2016-09-14 Thread Shreyaank Byadagi
Hi Please provide me the edit access to "shreyaank". I want to edit fineract installation document -- Thanks and Regards Shreyaank