Roman,
Malhar has much faster release frequency. We have so far managed the
discrepancy in release frequency with two repos. Malhar depends on a stable
Apex branch. Operationally we found two repos to be very efficient. Same
folks worked on both, so the coding roles are not separated. There may be
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
> > The primary difference between these is that Malhar is expected to be
> > released much more frequently than Apex as new functions are added.
> Also,
> > as a platform, there is much more burden on Apex to be stable, thus
> > decreasing
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> I had some long talks with Amol on exactly this point when he was getting
> started with this proposal.
>
> At the current time, it appears that the developer communities for these
> two systems are indistinguishable. Moreover, neither project
In part, I view the long committer list as a down payment on inclusiveness
and diversity.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Amol Kekre wrote:
> Bertrand
> Agreed. In incubator we will strive to achieve diversity, and inculcate
> habits to reflect and do discussions on apache dev list.
>
> Thks
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, jan i wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015, John D. Ament wrote:
> I would not be so strict with the deadline, as it is does not seem to
> interfere with the additional work with the report.
Jan, you're mistaken. Late reports are a PITA for the Report Manager
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On Tuesday, August 11, 2015, John D. Ament wrote:
> All,
>
> The below report was filed by Tinkerpop today. The podling reporting
> deadline closed last wednesday. Do we want to accept the report or still
> request to report next month?
I would not be so strict with the deadline, as it is does
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:02 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> In all seriousness, if this passes do we include it in this month's board
> motions and incubator report?
It doesn't matter whether it's in this month's report or next month's.
It's impossible to keep the report from bleeding over date boun
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:28 PM Jake Farrell wrote:
> +1 with fixed typo in email address
>
I dunno, I think jfarr...@apachge.org would be a great addition to the new
PMC. :-)
In all seriousness, if this passes do we include it in this month's board
motions and incubator report?
>
> -Jake
>
>
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:58 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> The below report was filed by Tinkerpop today. The podling reporting
> deadline closed last wednesday. Do we want to accept the report or still
> request to report next month?
We can ask nicely for podlings to report on time.
We can make
+1 with fixed typo in email address
-Jake
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Dave wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required items on the graduation c
Report has a mentor signing off on it and the Incubator report has not been
submitted to the board yet so I would say that its fine and that we send a
note so they are made aware of the timeline for their next report
-Jake
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> All,
>
> The be
All,
The below report was filed by Tinkerpop today. The podling reporting
deadline closed last wednesday. Do we want to accept the report or still
request to report next month?
Multiple other sections of the report need to be updated and the
podlings.xml file updated as well.
John
--
Oh... right. I remember that thread.
Thanks.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Marvin Humphrey
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ted Dunning
> wrote:
> > Perhaps I missed it, but was there already a discussion thread?
>
> Yes: http://s.apache.org/o8
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> ---
+1 binding
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Dave wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required items on the graduation check-list [1].
> Consensus appe
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> Perhaps I missed it, but was there already a discussion thread?
Yes: http://s.apache.org/o8
Marvin Humphrey
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Perhaps I missed it, but was there already a discussion thread?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Dave wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required ite
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Dave wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required items on the graduation check-list [1].
> Consensus appears to be ([2]
Bertrand
Agreed. In incubator we will strive to achieve diversity, and inculcate
habits to reflect and do discussions on apache dev list.
Thks,
Amol
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Amol Kekre wrote:
> > ...Under advice Ape
Thanks everyone for the feedback!
-Matt
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Chris Nauroth
wrote:
> Consideration of end user impact is a great point, and perhaps the most
> important consideration. In the case of DataFu, others have brought up
> that the rename would be a backwards-incompatible c
I also assume that "only PPMC votes are binding" is also a mistake, since this
[VOTE] is on the general-incubator list.
I presume that this means "only IPMC votes are binding" and that appears to be
what the binding votes are.
- Dennis
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From: Daniel Gruno [mailto:hum
Consideration of end user impact is a great point, and perhaps the most
important consideration. In the case of DataFu, others have brought up
that the rename would be a backwards-incompatible change that breaks all
existing client scripts that use DataFu, and going forward such a change
would cau
There's a typo in the resolution: should be jfarr...@apache.org, not
jfarr...@apachge.org ;)
With regards,
Daniel.
On 2015-08-10 18:15, Dave wrote:
The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
proje
+1 (binding)
On Aug 10, 2015 12:15, "Dave" wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required items on the graduation check-list [1].
> Consensus appears to be
+1 (binding)
rgds
jan i
On Monday, August 10, 2015, Dave wrote:
> The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
> 1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
> project has completed all required items on the graduation check-list [1].
> Consens
The Usergrid project has made three releases from the Incubator (1.0.0,
1.0.1 and 1.0.2), has added multiple and diverse committers, and the
project has completed all required items on the graduation check-list [1].
Consensus appears to be ([2] and [3]) that the project is ready to graduate
and so
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Amol Kekre wrote:
> ...Under advice Apex
> community came to a conclusion that it is better to engage as committers
> all those who are interested,...
Ok, if that's a conscious decision made with your mentors that's fine.
As you mention, a big part of initia
Bertrand,
The list is indeed long. This issue was discussed within the community
after feedback from Ted. We also sought out our mentors (Alan, Chris,
Hitesh, Justin, Taylor) and others from ASF community. Under advice Apex
community came to a conclusion that it is better to engage as committers
al
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik
>> wrote:
>>> ...is Apache Brand meant to protect *any* possible object/binary
>>> artifact or only those that PMC actually
On Monday, August 10, 2015, Amol Kekre wrote:
> Roman,
> It is a single proposal. Ted and I talked at length on this. The main
> difference is the release frequency and need for Malhar to work off a
> stable release of Apex. The proposal is for a single community not two, and
> to share all the c
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Amol Kekre wrote:
> ...I would like to start a discussion on DataTorrent's core engine and its
> operators joining the ASF as an incubating project under the name Apex
The list of initial committers is huge - do you expect so many people
to be active on th
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:11 AM, jan i wrote:
> ...we do not have a demand that a release must contain a
> test set, so if the release
> does not contain the test we cannot see it as broken, or ?...
>From the ASF's point of view you are correct, having tests in a
release is not required.
OTOH r
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> ...do we aspire to have a monopoly on certain
> binary convenience artifacts? IOW, if a Hadoop PMC blessed and RPM
> as one of those artifacts, does it mean that only that RPM (however
> potentially screwed up it is from the standpoint of
On Aug 9, 2015 8:33 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
> >> ...is Apache Brand meant to protect *any* possible object/binary
> >> artifact or only those that PMC actually care
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Hi All,
Voting for Apache Taverna Parent 1-incubating & Apache Taverna
Language 0.15.0-incubating is now closed. The release has
passed with the following tally:
Binding +1s:
Marlon Pierce (see
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-t
My +1 (binding) mentor vote was the other, besides Andy¹s. Thanks, jan i.
Marlon
On 8/10/15, 8:28 AM, "jan i" wrote:
>On Monday, August 10, 2015, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>
>> There are 2 mentors votes for this release.
>>
>> Could we get a third please, or the assistence to produce a better
>>re
On Monday, August 10, 2015, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> There are 2 mentors votes for this release.
>
> Could we get a third please, or the assistence to produce a better release?
+1 (binding) IPMC is on vacation :-)
ps. next time please provide the names of the mentors you carry over to the
IPMC vo
There are 2 mentors votes for this release.
Could we get a third please, or the assistence to produce a better release?
Andy
On 05/08/15 12:11, Ian Dunlop wrote:
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Hello,
The Apache Taverna Incubator PPMC has voted +5 to release
Apache T
Updated.
Thanks
Amareshwari
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:07 PM, John D. Ament
wrote:
> Amareshwari,
>
> Sorry didn't see that one. Tracking proposed graduations is the biggest
> pain.
>
> Good new though - the report is a community effort. Anyone can update it.
> I'll attempt to update it later,
Amareshwari,
Sorry didn't see that one. Tracking proposed graduations is the biggest
pain.
Good new though - the report is a community effort. Anyone can update it.
I'll attempt to update it later, however if you have time please just add
it to the wiki.
Thanks,
John
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at
I think you should consider the impact and potential gain on a
per-project basis, and agree this within the podling. I don't think we
can prescribe one way or the other for every project.
Changing the package name can for Java developers be a bit of an
identity thing and help to level the playing
Hi,
Sorry to pick on Ripple, please consider this more of a general
observation - the way people stage their releases often makes it
impossible to know exactly what people voted on.
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015, at 20:41, Tim Barham wrote:
...
>> The package you are voting on is available for review at
On 10 August 2015 at 10:33, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Hendrik Dev
> wrote:
> > ...We have (accidentally) a dependency to a snapshot version
> > for a library but only in maven scope...
>
> To me this means that release is broken, if I cannot test it I cannot
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Hendrik Dev wrote:
> ...We have (accidentally) a dependency to a snapshot version
> for a library but only in maven scope...
To me this means that release is broken, if I cannot test it I cannot trust it.
Not like Fully Absolutely Fatally broken, but still broke
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