Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Thanks a bunch for the detailed explanation of how git object model works, Jochen! Looks like now we can put "git branch deletion data loss" fiction to rest. Cos On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 07:11AM, Jochen Theodorou wrote: > Am 23.07.2015 05:13, schrieb Ted Dunning: > >On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:54 P

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 23.07.2015 05:13, schrieb Ted Dunning: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Valentin Kulichenko < valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: Concerns have been raised about the people behind the actual commits, that seems to be left open ? The identity of the committers is never lost (at least t

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Valentin Kulichenko
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Valentin Kulichenko < > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Concerns have been raised about the people behind the actual commits, > > that > > > seems to be left open ? > > > > > > > The identity of t

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread moon soo Lee
Hi, Vote to release Apache Zeppelin 0.5.0-incubating passed with the following results: 4 binding "+1" votes, no "0" or "-1" votes. IPMC binding votes were provided by: Konstantin Boudnik Justin Mclean Edward J. Yoon Jan Iversen Here's vote thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incuba

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread moon soo Lee
Thanks all IPMC for kind assistance. I'll send vote result email and proceed next steps. Thanks, moon On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM jan i wrote: > On 23 July 2015 at 01:49, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > > > Given that issues were addressed (or are work in progress) and the 72 > hours > > windo

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Valentin Kulichenko < valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry for some late responses. It so happens that most of the community > members are on european time zones. > Thanks so much for jumping in! > > I recognize that the activity on the ML is diverse FI

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Valentin Kulichenko < valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Concerns have been raised about the people behind the actual commits, > that > > seems to be left open ? > > > > The identity of the committers is never lost (at least to my knowledge). We > actually h

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Valentin Kulichenko
Hi, I will jump in as I'm also on Ignite PMC. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:50 PM, jan i wrote: > Hi > > I am concerned, seen from my POW (and please excuse it is of course my > personal pow), too many > questions remain unanswered. > > I am concerned because I would have expected the community to

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 2015-07-23 00:31, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >> Thanks Julian - that's something that this community would have it >> improve. >> Although I don't see if a particular way of using (or not using) JIRA is a >> graduation's requirement.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 01:50AM, jan i wrote: > Hi > > I am concerned, seen from my POW (and please excuse it is of course my > personal pow), too many > questions remain unanswered. > > I am concerned because I would have expected the community to have clear > answers (independent of whether I a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:46PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Actually, that document just makes me more dubious. > > The problems I see are: > > 1) the identity of the original person doing the work is obscured by the > squash commits No. Besides, I am not talking about rebases and force-pushes. I am t

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 07/22/2015 09:23 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > I reviewed Ignite’s commit log and email lists. I got the impression of > a split personality: The dev list[1] is very open and clearly following the > Apache Way. Meanwhile, the commit log[2] is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
+1 (binding) rgds jan i. ps. when you write to IPMC directly please include general@ we are lazy and do reply-all. On 23 July 2015 at 01:57, Henry Saputra wrote: > Thanks! I definitely owe you glass of wine when we met in person ;) > > But, unfortunately we need the +1 in the general@ list w

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
On 23 July 2015 at 01:49, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Given that issues were addressed (or are work in progress) and the 72 hours > window has passed (eg anyone who wanted to chime in had a chance to do it) > I'd > call the vote and send the official result email to this list. Then follow > with

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
Hi I am concerned, seen from my POW (and please excuse it is of course my personal pow), too many questions remain unanswered. I am concerned because I would have expected the community to have clear answers (independent of whether I agree or not) to e.g. the concerns from Daniel. It seems to me

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Actually, that document just makes me more dubious. The problems I see are: 1) the identity of the original person doing the work is obscured by the squash commits 2) the deletion of the bug branch after integration involves deletion of important information from git (and I thought that rewritin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Given that issues were addressed (or are work in progress) and the 72 hours window has passed (eg anyone who wanted to chime in had a chance to do it) I'd call the vote and send the official result email to this list. Then follow with the rest of required steps like moving artifacts, etc. Thanks

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread moon soo Lee
Thanks everyone for valuable concern and comment to the first release of Apache Zeppelin (incubating). Like Alexander mentioned, community will quickly address issues raised here, over the next release. I'd like to learn more how the vote goes. While this vote has four +1, is it okay to close this

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
After a quick walk through the master log I see that a bunch of the questionable commits are resulted from the dev. branches histories not being properly squashed before the feature is merged into the master. This is something that mentors have asked to address before and, in fact, the community i

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-07-23 00:31, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: Thanks Julian - that's something that this community would have it improve. Although I don't see if a particular way of using (or not using) JIRA is a graduation's requirement. If there's a way to trace a particular feature to an archived discussio

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Aled Sage
Hi Justin, Hadrian, Yes, that's the justification for omitting the copyright header in those files. From the incubator-general discussion for release 0.7.0-M2-incubating [1]: This one has been previously discussed on our lists; our conclusion with our mentors was that the archetype is a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Shall we agree that the community is ready to graduate and task the new PMC > with a couple of the action items such as keep recruiting outside > committers, > thus growing the viability of the project, and improving the JIRA > communic

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Thanks Julian - that's something that this community would have it improve. Although I don't see if a particular way of using (or not using) JIRA is a graduation's requirement. If there's a way to trace a particular feature to an archived discussion - ie mailing list - there's no problem in my prof

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Thank you guys for resolving the raised issues so quickly! Cos On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:25PM, Alexander Bezzubov wrote: > Got it, thank you very much, Justin, for the explanation! > > On behalf of the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) PPMC I have contacted > the original author and he agreed to con

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > That is the text file used to test local file. Does it need to be > added with Apache header? Given the content is trivial there's probably no need, but it does stick out as it’s the only file to be missing a header. Thanks, Justin -

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 07/22/2015 09:23 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > I reviewed Ignite’s commit log and email lists. I got the impression of a > split personality: The dev list[1] is very open and clearly following the > Apache Way. Meanwhile, the commit log[2] is (to my eyes at least) difficult > to decipher. > > In

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Henry Saputra
Justin, That is the text file used to test local file. Does it need to be added with Apache header? - Henry On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > +1 binding > > I checked: > - release has incubating in name > - signatures and hashes good > - DISCLAIMER exists > - LICEN

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Pierre Smits
Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-1015 This also happens in other projects I visited. Issues start out small, and over time they grow towards completeness (description, better subject, etc) based on the feedback provided via comments and via on and off list interactions. One issue s

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Pierre Smits
@Branko: are referring to TEZ in your last posting, or Ignite? If you are talking about ignite, have a look at: http://markmail.org/search/incubator.ignite+list:org.apache.ignite.dev and http://markmail.org/search/incubator.ignite+list:org.apache.ignite.user and check out the 'Who sent it' overvie

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Hmm... Also, if you look at the JIRA in question, the question of what is happening is also not resovled: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-1015 There are no comments, nor any linkage to the commit history. This could definitely be improved. It is important to take the course that J

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Julian Hyde
I reviewed Ignite’s commit log and email lists. I got the impression of a split personality: The dev list[1] is very open and clearly following the Apache Way. Meanwhile, the commit log[2] is (to my eyes at least) difficult to decipher. In the commit log, messages such as "Merge remote-tracking

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Hi Cedric, It's dug down somewhere in my memories, I bet somebody like Marvin or Roman or Ted could quickly pull out their magic hats the authoritative link. There ore other projects that release in non-asf packages (e.g. geronimo specs in javax.*) for very good reasons. I don't know what and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Rob Vesse
No such requirement actually exists Jena graduated in April 2012 and because of our backwards compatibility requirements the package names for existing code have until very recently remained the same (though new code developed at Apache has used org.apache.jena where possible) Now we are finally

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Hi Justin, Being part of the maven archetype, these are the templates to "quickstart" a user with a project using brooklyn. Such projects would not be licensed to the ASF, but we could also say that it's then their business to update the copyright header. I am kinda neutral on this one, but I

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 (binding) Regards JB On 07/22/2015 08:49 AM, Richard Downer wrote: This is to call for a vote for the release of Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating. The Apache Brooklyn community have voted in favour of making this release: Vote thread: https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-broo

Re: Kylin mentor

2015-07-22 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
Done. -Taylor > On Jul 22, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Luke Han wrote: > > Hi Taylor, > We are really glad you could be our mentor, really appreciated and > looking forward to work with you. > > Could you please help to edit files like Marvin mentioned above? > > Thank you very much. > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Cédric Champeau
> * renaming of packages from brooklyn.* to org.apache.brooklyn.* will be > required for graduation, I strongly encourage that step to be taken care of > in the next release. Where is such a requirement described? As far as I understand, package names are best suited if they start with org.apache.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 binding I checked the source release. - release contains incubating - signatures and hashed good - DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE good (a few minor issues) - no unexpected binary files - some source files are missing headers (see /usage/archetypes/quickstart/src/brooklyn-sample/sr

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Brooklyn 0.7.0-incubating [rc1]

2015-07-22 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
+1 I already voted in the PPMC vote, I am pasting below my findings. Cheers, Hadrian -- Excellent work on the release Richard. * tested the binaries on Linux, they work fine, although not my focus; the ASF releases code as source, so I focused more on the source distro * downloading,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Twill-0.6.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 binding I checked: - release has incubating in name - signatures and hashes good - DISCLAIMER exists - LICENSE and NOTICE all good - no binary files in release (makes checking easy) - all source files have headers - can compile from source Not an issue but any reason for this file? /twill

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Luke Han wrote: > Hi there, > We have submitted proposal for Apache Kylin, but not see the update > there on the wiki. > Is that ok or should we do something else? See the other replies. Wiki was solely used in the preparation. The schedule for apachecon COR

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Richard Downer wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 at 09:32 jan i > wrote: > > > > Sorry I'm a bit late! I've modified the wiki page to add Brooklyn to > the > > > list of full talks, and volunteer myself for a shark tank talk. > > > > > ??? Confused, the schedul

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Luke Han
Hi there, We have submitted proposal for Apache Kylin, but not see the update there on the wiki. Is that ok or should we do something else? Thanks. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:32 PM, jan i wrote: > On 22 July 2015 at 10:17, Richard Dow

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Richard Downer
Hi Jan, On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 at 09:32 jan i wrote: > > Sorry I'm a bit late! I've modified the wiki page to add Brooklyn to the > > list of full talks, and volunteer myself for a shark tank talk. > > > ??? Confused, the schedule is fixed and talks have been grouped, changes in > the wiki page mad

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
+1 (binding) jan i. On 22 July 2015 at 10:31, Edward J. Yoon wrote: > > On behalf of the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) PPMC I have contacted > > the original author and he agreed to contribute this code, with the > > proper Apache 2.0 licence header, directly to the Apache Zeppelin > > (incubatin

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread jan i
On 22 July 2015 at 10:17, Richard Downer wrote: > Hi Roman, > > On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 at 21:04 Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > Both regular talks and "speed dating" proposals are currently tracked > > over here: https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator > > However, as of today we've got les

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Zeppelin (incubating) 0.5.0-incubating

2015-07-22 Thread Edward J. Yoon
> On behalf of the Apache Zeppelin (incubating) PPMC I have contacted > the original author and he agreed to contribute this code, with the > proper Apache 2.0 licence header, directly to the Apache Zeppelin > (incubating) codebase as a separate patch. > So it is going to be resolved completely, to

Re: Kylin mentor

2015-07-22 Thread Luke Han
Hi Taylor, We are really glad you could be our mentor, really appreciated and looking forward to work with you. Could you please help to edit files like Marvin mentioned above? Thank you very much. Best Regards! - Luke Han On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:43 PM, P

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Richard Downer
Hi Roman, On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 at 21:04 Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Both regular talks and "speed dating" proposals are currently tracked > over here: https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator > However, as of today we've got less that 20% participation rate from > poddlings. > Sorry I'm a

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

2015-07-22 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.07.2015 21:04, Ted Dunning wrote: > Actually, given that this project was a spin-out of an internal project, > this is a stunningly low number to have achieved so quickly (assuming that > the 37% are actually active, that is). Indeed. And yes, they're active; that's easily established by rea