Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Lens 2.2.0-beta-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread amareshwarisr .
> > And I assume you ‘re not using the GPL license version :-) > > Yes > > AFAIK, I have verified all the content wrt licenses and the NOTICE is > fine. > > > From a quick look it seems to me that is not the case as it listing > licences rather than what’s required but I'll take your word for it.

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release of Apache Lens 2.2.0-beta-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread Amareshwari Sriramdasu
Hi all, The vote is now closed and passed with 5 +1 votes (4 binding), no -1 votes and no 0 votes. We now have the required number of positive binding votes and will therefore proceed with publishing this release. Thank you all for voting. Binding votes : +1 Amareshwari Sriramadasu +1 Justin Mcl

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Lens 2.2.0-beta-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread amareshwarisr .
I'm closing the vote as 72 hours passed and required number of votes are received. Closing it on behalf of Jaideep as he is OOO. Thanks all for taking time to vote. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Those are files required for binary distribution LICENSE files.

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
> I understand that git is a DVCS, but by mirroring the commit content > from one repo to the ASF (albeit via a committer middleman), we > largely make the push records[1] pointless. The push logs are intended to determine the committer either who authored the contribution or is taking responsibil

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > Hi Till, > > We should probably move this discussion on to the > d...@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org list. > > In short, we shouldn’t have situations in which there are contributors > who contributions are “shepherded in” by Apache

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:56 AM, David Nalley wrote: > >> We've explored gerrit 2-3 times in the past 24 months. We have seen >> several projects request it over the years. As I've mentioned >> elsewhere in this thread, our most recent exp

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread David Nalley
Chris: We've discussed Crucible in the past. (There's a ticket or two for it in Jira). We've talked with some folks who run it, who tell us it's pretty sluggish for environments a fraction of the size of the ASF. That said - the other issue is that we have 200 projects. There is very little unifo

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik >> wrote: >>> As long as there's a human being in the loop reviewing what's going into the >>> repo I don't think I've got any is

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Hi Till, We should probably move this discussion on to the d...@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org list. In short, we shouldn’t have situations in which there are contributors who contributions are “shepherded in” by Apache AsterixDB Incubating PPMC members whose contributions have an indirect middle

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
+1. This is basically how I see it as well. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:25 AM, David Nalley wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) >> wrote: >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> Can someone clarify in simple terms what the i

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
To meet this, do we simply need the change proposals in Gerrit (i.e. pull requests) to have their patch contents mirrored to a proper ASF mailing list? - Ian On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> As long as there's

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > 1) I think that we didn’t ask for an ASF hosted instance. But I also think > that > David’s concern that the absence of the service would disrupt the > development of AsterixDB is valid. And thus it might make sense not to rely > on an insta

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> As long as there's a human being in the loop reviewing what's going into the >> repo I don't think I've got any issues with the process. > > The ASF needs to establish provenance

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Till Westmann
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Till Westmann > wrote: >> >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: > 2. The ASF has no record o

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Chris Douglas
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > As long as there's a human being in the loop reviewing what's going into the > repo I don't think I've got any issues with the process. The ASF needs to establish provenance. It can't do that if a committer pushes code that was posted to

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > >> On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on the Gerrit instance at UCI, until a committer dec

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Till Westmann
> On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:25 AM, David Nalley wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) > wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Can someone clarify in simple terms what the issue is here? >> > > There's a few issues Chris: Let me try to describe this in terms how most members

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Till Westmann
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: >>> 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on >>> the Gerrit instance at UCI, until a committer decides to push code to >>> the ASF repo. >> >> I'm afraid I d

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Till Westmann
+1 > On Jul 15, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > I've used crucible. It's horrible. And it comes from Atlassian, which > means that infra@ is predisposed against it, as their general feeling > is that the Atlassian products are very heavy. > > --

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Got it, thanks. I’m CC’ing d...@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org. Till, others: is David’s summarization below accurate? Anything to respond here? Thanks, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Can someone clarify in simple terms what the issue is here? > There's a few issues Chris: 1. Contributions are being submitted, discussed, and accepted externally. No record of the submission, discussion, or accepta

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Hi Folks, Can someone clarify in simple terms what the issue is here? I’m sorry I’m just catching up on this thread, but I want to make sure the podling community for AsterixDB is being supported. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, P

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
> In Git (and I'd presume any Git-like DVCS) anything but the push logs > can be spoofed. Having a record of who actually pushed to the repo > is one of the requirement from ASF's standpoint to track chain of custody > for the code that lands in out projects. Understood. That's the very reason why

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: >> 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on >> the Gerrit instance at UCI, until a committer decides to push code to >> the ASF repo. > > I'm afraid I don't understand this point. How is this different than > any other di

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
> The legal issue at hand is that one must reasonably assume that the > contributor offers his patch with an implicit license to the ASF for > distribution under the terms of the ASL 2. > > For example, if you add a patch to a Jira issue, then there is a > select box, which allows to express consen

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Benson Margulies
I've used crucible. It's horrible. And it comes from Atlassian, which means that infra@ is predisposed against it, as their general feeling is that the Atlassian products are very heavy. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr.

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Chris Douglas
David- In another conversation, you mentioned Crucible [1] as another tool for code reviews. Is that a viable option? Has anyone on the list had any experience using it? -C [1] https://www.atlassian.com/software/crucible/overview/ On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Tue,

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Lens 2.2.0-beta-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Those are files required for binary distribution LICENSE files. Some of > the libraries included in binary distribution are dual licensed along with > GPL. And I assume you ‘re not using the GPL license version :-) > AFAIK, I have verified all the content wrt licenses and the NOTICE is fi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NiFi 0.2.0-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread Sergio Fernández
+1 (binding), where so far I've checked: * signatures and digests * source releases file layouts * matched git tags and commit ids * incubator suffix and disclaimer * NOTICE and LICENSE files * build sources in a clean environment (openjdk7, maven 3, debian 64bits) As Justin commented, is prefera

[VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2)

2015-07-15 Thread Yakov Zhdanov
Hello! The Apache Ignite PPMC has voted to release Apache Ignite 1.3.0-incubating. The vote was based on the release candidate and thread described below. We now request the IPMC to vote on this release. Apache Ignite 1.3.0 release (RC2) has been accepted with 7 votes for (1 binding vote): -

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ian Maxon wrote: > I guess there's some legal issue I'm ignorant of here then. How would > one submit a patch, without cloning from the official mirror, and > hence becoming just as aware of ASF involvement as they would > otherwise? The legal issue at hand is t

Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Lens 2.2.0-beta-incubating

2015-07-15 Thread amareshwarisr .
Thanks Justin for bringing up issues on the candidate. Responses in-line. > > Minor issues: > - Any reason why are these file included in the source release? > apache-lens-2.2.0-beta-incubating/bin-dist-files/LICENSE-GPLv3 > apache-lens-2.2.0-beta-incubating/bin-dist-files/LICENSE-

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
> That is the question, indeed. And, please, keep in mind that the > answer must satisfy not a humble developer with "no red tape" in mind, > but a lawyer. I guess there's some legal issue I'm ignorant of here then. How would one submit a patch, without cloning from the official mirror, and hence

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Chris Hillery
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > IIRC, the problem with Gerrit workflow is that actually > pushes into the repo are actually done by the bot. That's how we (the Asterix project) had things set up, but it isn't a requirement of Gerrit. In fact we had to kind of duct-tap

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Chris Hillery
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 2:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Chris Hillery > wrote: > > > I feel sure that > > with an ASF-hosted Gerrit, we wouldn't be able to install any hooks or > > plugins, or manage permissions, or anything like that in the way that we > > fi

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ian Maxon wrote: > Then what are they submitting a patch for review to, exactly? That is the question, indeed. And, please, keep in mind that the answer must satisfy not a humble developer with "no red tape" in mind, but a lawyer. >> Second, Gerrit is where ev

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Ian Maxon
> 1. People are not clearly contributing to Apache AsterixDB when > submitting a patch via Gerrit at UCI.edu. Think about Section 5 of > ASLv2. Then what are they submitting a patch for review to, exactly? > 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on > the Gerrit instance

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

2015-07-15 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Chris Hillery wrote: > I feel sure that > with an ASF-hosted Gerrit, we wouldn't be able to install any hooks or > plugins, or manage permissions, or anything like that in the way that we > find useful. Not initially, to be sure. But in the medium term, and with