Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-10 Thread ant elder
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Eric Johnson wrote: > If this was a software project, and the appropriate answer was unknown, they > you might apply a "lean startup" approach, and figure out how to run tests > to see which way works best. > > Given the number of incubating projects, should be eas

Re: Writing some tooling

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 10, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> I'm currently writing some tooling to help with the incubation process as >> well as mail list moderator tools > > Cool! > > https://whimsy.apache.org/ might be a good inte

Re: May 2013 Report

2013-05-10 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > I think that you should make it clear that the Marvin machinery broke down > and projects did not get their notifications. Didn't the last email on the subject contradict that idea? > > > Regards, > Alan > > On May 10, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Ben

Re: Writing some tooling

2013-05-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > I'm currently writing some tooling to help with the incubation process as > well as mail list moderator tools Cool! https://whimsy.apache.org/ might be a good integration point for such tools. -Bertrand ---

Writing some tooling

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
I'm currently writing some tooling to help with the incubation process as well as mail list moderator tools. The first thing that I'm writing is a command that will print out who is the owner of an email alias and what projects they belong to and if they are ASF members. This will help me vet

Re: May 2013 Report

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
I think that you should make it clear that the Marvin machinery broke down and projects did not get their notifications. Regards, Alan On May 10, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I wrote some text at the front. I plan to fill in things like PMC > members coming and going tomorrow m

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
Lean startup approaches make sense when you do not know the problem that you're solving. You perform experiments and pivot as you blindly search for a domain whose problems you can solve and make money doing it. Here, we know what our problems are. This is not to say that we should not collect

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 10, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > So, here we have: > > Alan's idea of removing champions and shepherds and demanding mentor > recommitment, with the 'teeth' of putting podlings on ice if they > can't muster an adequate mentor squad. > > My idea of asking champions to step

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-10 Thread Eric Johnson
If this was a software project, and the appropriate answer was unknown, they you might apply a "lean startup" approach, and figure out how to run tests to see which way works best. Given the number of incubating projects, should be easy to run some experiments. Then you just need to build up s

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] CloudStack Marvin Test Suite

2013-05-10 Thread Chip Childers
On Monday, May 6, 2013, Chip Childers wrote: > Citrix has donated the source code artifact detailed at [1] to the ASF. > This email is to request lazy consensus from the IPMC for the IP > clearance of this donation. > > Please reply with questions or concerns if there are any. > > -chip > > [1] >

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-10 Thread Benson Margulies
So, here we have: Alan's idea of removing champions and shepherds and demanding mentor recommitment, with the 'teeth' of putting podlings on ice if they can't muster an adequate mentor squad. My idea of asking champions to step up to some specific supervision responsibility, thus allowing some fl

Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 5

2013-05-10 Thread Patrick Hunt
+1 (binding) sig/xsum verify. rat runs clean. I've run through the release checklist and everything seems fine to me. Patrick On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote: > Hello, > > this is the *fifth* release candidate for Apache S4, version 0.6.0 > > We fixed 2 blocking issues wrt R

May 2013 Report

2013-05-10 Thread Benson Margulies
I wrote some text at the front. I plan to fill in things like PMC members coming and going tomorrow morning, and commit to svn. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ge

Re: If I were king of the forest

2013-05-10 Thread Patrick Hunt
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > On May 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Suresh Marru wrote: > > Sebb is awesome. > +1 Patrick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional comman

[RESULT][VOTE] [IP Clearance] Apache Lucene Korean morphological analyzer

2013-05-10 Thread Steve Rowe
This vote has passed. - Steve On May 6, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Steve Rowe wrote: > SooMyung Lee has offered to contribute a Korean morphological analyzer to the > Apache Lucene project. > > The contributed code is attached to the LUCENE-4956 JIRA issue[1], which is > being used to track developmen

Re: [VOTE] S4 0.6.0 Incubating Release Candidate 5

2013-05-10 Thread Daniel Gómez Ferro
+1 (non-binding) * verified signature and checksums * only changes from previous RC are documentation related * ran tests On Thu May 9 22:56:47 2013, kishore g wrote: +1 verified sigs built code, tools and ran tests rat check passed Thanks, Kishore G On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Matthie