Re: svn commit: r1432804 - /incubator/public/branches/license_howto/licensing_howto.mdtext

2013-01-14 Thread sebb
On 14 January 2013 23:42, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM, sebb wrote: >>> +Bundling Permissively-Licensed Dependencies >>> +=== >>> + >>> +Bundling a dependency which is issued under one of the following licenses >>> is >>> +stra

Re: svn commit: r1432804 - /incubator/public/branches/license_howto/licensing_howto.mdtext

2013-01-14 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM, sebb wrote: >> +Bundling Permissively-Licensed Dependencies >> +=== >> + >> +Bundling a dependency which is issued under one of the following licenses is >> +straightforward, assuming that said license applies uniformly to a

Re: Thoughts about formalizing the role of shepherd

2013-01-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > ... >> The problem I'm looking at is indeed the chronic lack of reliable >> mentor presence in the projects, as witnessed (maybe) by the signoff >> statistics in January. > >

Re: Thoughts about formalizing the role of shepherd

2013-01-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: ... > The problem I'm looking at is indeed the chronic lack of reliable > mentor presence in the projects, as witnessed (maybe) by the signoff > statistics in January. With shepherds you might spot problems and bring them to the table. But

Re: [VOTE] release Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating

2013-01-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM, sebb wrote: > On 12 January 2013 17:31, Simone Tripodi wrote: >> Hi all guys, >> >> The Apache Onami PPMC voted for Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating[1] >> which already collected 2 IPMC binding votes: >> >> SVN source tag: >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incuba

Re: svn commit: r1432804 - /incubator/public/branches/license_howto/licensing_howto.mdtext

2013-01-14 Thread sebb
On 14 January 2013 05:00, wrote: > Author: marvin > Date: Mon Jan 14 05:00:28 2013 > New Revision: 1432804 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1432804&view=rev > Log: > INCUBATOR-125 Initial version of howto. > > Create a howto describing a formulaic approach to assembling the > LICENSE and

Re: [VOTE] release Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating

2013-01-14 Thread sebb
On 12 January 2013 17:31, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > The Apache Onami PPMC voted for Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating[1] > which already collected 2 IPMC binding votes: > > SVN source tag: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/onami/tags/org.apache.onami.parent-2-incubating/ N

Re: Thoughts about formalizing the role of shepherd

2013-01-14 Thread Matt Franklin
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > To begin with, I realize that I am tampering with the structure of the IPMC. > > In some ways, the IPMC is just another project. It has members, they > are responsible for supervision of source control and releases. In > other ways, it's v

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Ted Dunning
Frankly, having skeletons in the closet that a company like SCO could exploit to try to kill an open source project like Linux *is* a big deal to end users. They may not know about it until it bites them, but if and when it does they will for darn sure care. It isn't that big a deal to get this r

Re: Thoughts about formalizing the role of shepherd

2013-01-14 Thread Benson Margulies
To begin with, I realize that I am tampering with the structure of the IPMC. In some ways, the IPMC is just another project. It has members, they are responsible for supervision of source control and releases. In other ways, it's very different from the other projects. It's responsible for bootstr

[VOTE] Streams Master 0.1-incubating Release

2013-01-14 Thread Jason Letourneau
Apache Streams is looking to release its 0.1 Master POM. Given this is our first release, I'd like to call attention to a mistake I've made by inadvertently promoting the staged artifacts on Nexus before the IPMC vote. We do have 4 IPMC members on our PPMC, however, I realize that the IPMC proper

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Benson Margulies
I don't think that it's up to the IPMC to decide that the legal notices aren't worth getting right unless a corporate elephant decided to trumpet about them. My view is that we, as a PMC, are responsible for only shipping releases that meet some minimum standard. I am trying to extract a definition

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Schaefer
Trust me, nobody here has any legal training either. We're just more familiar with policy, not so much the rationale behind it.  And no I'm not saying this kind of review is worthless, I'm just trying to adjust priorities to better match reality- we can provide this "legal" feedback in other ways t

Re: Mesos - Shepherd's report

2013-01-14 Thread Alan Cabrera
Thanks Andy! What do you guys see as your key items that need to be done before you graduate? Looks like you guys are in critical need of some fresh mentors. Regards, Alan On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Andy Konwinski wrote: > I've updated the wiki with the report text that Ben wrote. Tha

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/14/13 9:20 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: > The thing is Alex, all of this effort > to dot our i's and cross our t's on the legal > issues really is only for the benefit > of major corporations who want to incorporate > our work into some corporate-branded application. > Actual end users of ou

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Schaefer
The thing is Alex, all of this effort to dot our i's and cross our t's on the legal issues really is only for the benefit of major corporations who want to incorporate our work into some corporate-branded application. Actual end users of our software do not benefit one iota from the type of nitpick

Re: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/14/13 7:01 AM, "Chen, Pei" wrote: >> Really is it so bad to say to a project with a bug in their license and >> notice info: >> fix this in trunk and show me the revision and I'll go ahead and approve your >> release as-is. >> Running through iterations of this is very labor-intensive for

RE: [DISCUSS] Expressing priorities about release reviews

2013-01-14 Thread Chen, Pei
> Really is it so bad to say to a project with a bug in their license and > notice info: > fix this in trunk and show me the revision and I'll go ahead and approve your > release as-is. > Running through iterations of this is very labor-intensive for the project, > and > anything we can do to cut

Re: Thoughts about formalizing the role of shepherd

2013-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler
Why would adding another formal role solve the problem that saw the creation of shepherds (missing mentors)? Are you tackling a different problem now? Unless there is a really solid reason for it I would be concerned about crating structure in the incubator that isn't present in the ASF proper.

Re: The report/review cycle

2013-01-14 Thread Benson Margulies
wait, that was wrong On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> It is a week before the board meeting, but not a week before the >> weekend before the board meeting. > > No, quoting the last reminders from Marvin: >

Re: The report/review cycle

2013-01-14 Thread Benson Margulies
I want another ,5 weeks to grab another weekend On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> It is a week before the board meeting, but not a week before the >> weekend before the board meeting. > > No, quoting the la

[RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] Apache UIMA TextMarker contribution to Apache UIMA

2013-01-14 Thread Peter Klügl
Closing this vote after the 72 hour period. The lazy consensus vote passes with no -1 having been cast. This completes the IP clearance process for Apache UIMA TextMarker. Thanks! Peter On 10.01.2013 10:40, Peter Klügl wrote: Hi, the TextMarker [1] project has been contributed to the Apache

Re: The report/review cycle

2013-01-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > It is a week before the board meeting, but not a week before the > weekend before the board meeting. No, quoting the last reminders from Marvin: "The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 16 January 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST. The