On Jan 13, 2013 11:46 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>...
> Next down are the 'vice-chairs', currently known as the shepherds.
> Each of these people is responsible for a group of projects, dispersed
> across the reporting cycle. The shepherd, at least, tunes into the
> reports, but also checks in
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Marvin Humphrey commented on INCUBATOR-125:
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> 1. I want to start by noting t
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Right now, a shepherd assignment is a temporary job. It starts as the
> reports for a cycle begin to come in, and it ends when the shepherd
> feels that he or she has done what makes sense in terms of reporting
> to the community and, in s
One comment or worry I have is, so far the shepherd comments have been very
useful, but we have to be cognizant of the fact that shepherds are very less
informed then mentors (by design). So the shepherd comments have to be really
constructive. There is a risk of some delicate conversations offe
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Just think about this for a second, what's more
> likely for people to start suing us over, some
> bug in the NOTICE file or an undetected backdoor
> in one of our programs? I am personally far more
> concerned about the current state of the
Thanks Benson for the clarification, now the timeline fully makes sense to me.
Suresh
On Jan 13, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Suresh Marru wrote:
>> Hi Benson,
>>
>> + 1 for this time line, it really helps to have shepherds a day or two. I am
>
Maybe this version fits?
T1 T2T3 T4
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friday beforewedfriday beforewed
friday before board meeting
board meeting board meeting
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Suresh Marru wrote:
> Hi Benson,
>
> + 1 for this time line, it really helps to have shepherds a day or two. I am
> sorry I couldn't get my shepherd reports in this time with post-holiday
> catchup and sickness.
>
> I do not want to add too much to the process, b
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> What do people think of making the podling reporting deadline be a
> full week before the board's deadline?
I think this would be extremely helpful.
Thanks,
Roman.
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To
Hi Benson,
+ 1 for this time line, it really helps to have shepherds a day or two. I am
sorry I couldn't get my shepherd reports in this time with post-holiday catchup
and sickness.
I do not want to add too much to the process, but want to understand the buffer
between shepherd comments and yo
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Craig L Russell
wrote:
> There have been many opinions expressed over the last few years about what
> constitutes a "release". At least one opinion was that having the source in
> SCM that is freely available constitutes "release" and therefore best
> practice is t
There have been many opinions expressed over the last few years about
what constitutes a "release". At least one opinion was that having the
source in SCM that is freely available constitutes "release" and
therefore best practice is to mark the source directory with the
appropriate source L
Is it actually required to have these files in SCM in any particular
location, or just to have a build/packaging process that delivers them
in the package?
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Craig L Russell
wrote:
> We can also add a checklist item to the top level checklists, to be done as
> part
We can also add a checklist item to the top level checklists, to be
done as part of the source migration:
Add LICENSE and NOTICE files to the top level repository directory. [I
don't know if there is anything more specific than that, because where
a project is using project/trunk, project/s
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Benson Margulies commented on INCUBATOR-125:
I have some questions / sugges
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Marvin Humphrey
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> 1. Why are podlings having so much trouble getting the legal metadata
>>correct?
>
> * Our documentation on legal metadata is ill-organized, voluminous, and
> ultima
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> 1. Why are podlings having so much trouble getting the legal metadata
>correct?
* Our documentation on legal metadata is ill-organized, voluminous, and
ultimately overwhelming.
* The NOTICE construct is fundamentally confusing
OpenOffice 3.4.1, released in 20 languages when it was still undergoing
incubation in 2012, will be released in 8 more languages later this month.
We will keep the version number at 3.4.1 and release a patch to the
current 3.4.1 sources that contains just the language support for the
new langu
It is a week before the board meeting, but not a week before the
weekend before the board meeting. The board asked me to have our
report in place by the end of the Friday before the Wednesday of the
board meeting so that they could review over the weekend.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Jukka
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> What do people think of making the podling reporting deadline be a
> full week before the board's deadline?
That's what it used to be. Did it change?
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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On 13/01/13 12:45, Benson Margulies wrote:
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3. Most of the reviewing in this area is done by sebb. We're lucky to
have him paying attention to this at all, because it sure seems
sometimes as if no one else does.
Adding all of this up, I've got a very modest proposal. Let's create a
checklist,
That would help a lot, especially with the "all mentors sign" policy.
The chance that one or more mentor is unable to review and sign a report
with a day or so notice is unfortunately high. A few more days in that
schedule would make the probability of getting all three sigs much higher.
On Sun,
Added you
Cheers
Christian
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Benjamin Hindman
wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> I'm at BenjaminHindman (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BenjaminHindman).
>
> Thank you!
>
> Ben.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> wrote:
>
>> On a side note:
>>
This time around, the timing was as follows:
Wed 09-01-2013: Deadline for podling reports
Friday 11-01-2013: Practical board deadline
Wed 16-01-2013: Board meeting
In other words, we had a two day window for shepherds to digest
reports, then go dig around to fill in their picture.
Now, maybe t
I'd like to try to break this down a bit. I'm ignoring, for this
reply, the questions Joe raises about supervising things other than
the legal metadata.
1. Why are podlings having so much trouble getting the legal metadata
correct? Every single existing Apache release is a sample. The top
problem
Hi Christian,
I'm at BenjaminHindman (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BenjaminHindman).
Thank you!
Ben.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> On a side note:
> if you want access to the wiki, no problem. Just mail your wiki name
> from this wiki:
> http://wiki.apache
Hi folks,
I'm a new mentor of JSPWiki but unable to to make any changes
(everything in an InmutablePage) - my login name is SiegfriedGoeschl
Thanks in advance
Siegfried Goeschl
On 10.01.13 17:12, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Craig L Russell
wrote:
I've reviewed
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