Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
Given how the discussion on other closed lists is proceeding, as chair of this committee, I feel compelled to contribute the following: The current stated policy of the Foundation is that releases go onto /dist. If you are using Maven tooling to make your releases, you should first of all be sure

Re: [VOTE] retire photark

2012-12-21 Thread Jakob Homan
+1 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > +1 > > Dan > > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > > > Having received no traffic on the discussion thread, and in particular > > no traffic at all from the PPMC, I hereby call a vote to retire > > photark. > > > >

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi I agree about how policy should change. But when it comes to apply on this case I believe we have to read the release rules carefully and we will see that we don't need policy change we just need to add more details and hence make it more clear The release rules assume you are release sour

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
My belief is that the policy changed a long time ago but was not properly edited into the document. If I didn't believe that, I'd be taking a different approach here. My secondary belief is that the existing document is an ambiguous writing job, and I'm as entitled to my opinion as to the actual in

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
I've answered my own question in part. Oltu taşı means 'jet', a black form of Amber. The humorous question for any Turkish readers of this thread is this: when a Turkish reader sees 'otlu' by itself, do they think, 'jet', 'aux fine herbs', or 'cheese'? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Benson Marg

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
Turkish speakers: Google translate says that 'otlu', with no diacritics, is an adjective meaning grassy or herby. Thus, the cheese is cheese with herbs in it. Just for my education, how does Amber come into it? Is there supposed to be an diacritic? Is google just bewildered? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 a

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi Daniel On Dec 21, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:36:58 -0500: The bad news is that there is another software project with "Oltu" in the name (google "oltu software", since trademarks are only important within general categories of products

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:36:58 -0500: > The bad news is that there is another software project with "Oltu" in > the name (google "oltu software", since trademarks are only important > within general categories of products). The good news is it seems to > simply be a str

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Benson Margulies wrote on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:01:03 -0500: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Marcel Offermans > wrote: > > Well, I don't think it's fine. As long as our release policy states that > > all releases must be archived on /dist we should do exactly that. Or change > > the policy.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Simone Tripodi
no needs to defense, it was nice reading something curious! :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/ On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Simon

Re: [VOTE] retire photark

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Having received no traffic on the discussion thread, and in particular > no traffic at all from the PPMC, I hereby call a vote to retire > photark. > > [+1] > > -

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi Shane, thanks a lot for this. I conducted a US Trademark Search, this shows no results for "Oltu" http://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=oltu as per PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12 (Evidence Of Registration) but thanks for double checking! Regards Antonio

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Shane Curcuru
NOTE: Oltu has *not* taken their name search to trademarks@, which is a *requirement* before resolving the actual name search. This is understandable, since the docs don't clearly specify this. I've taken a quick look and commented on the JIRA, so they seem to have a fine name, so please feel

[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12) Establish whether "Apache Oltu" is a suitable name

2012-12-21 Thread Shane Curcuru (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13537856#comment-13537856 ] Shane Curcuru commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12: USPTO search di

Re: [VOTE] retire photark

2012-12-21 Thread Suresh Marru
+ 1 Suresh On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Having received no traffic on the discussion thread, and in particular > no traffic at all from the PPMC, I hereby call a vote to retire > photark. > > [+1] > > --

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 13:52 , Benson Margulies wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Martijn Dashorst >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies >>> wrote: Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll ed

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Marcel Offermans
On Dec 21, 2012, at 13:52 , Benson Margulies wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Martijn Dashorst > wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies >> wrote: >>> Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll edit it. >> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html > > While I a

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > You ought to leave it for 72 hours, a half day is not enough time for infra > to respond. Ross is completely right. Stay tuned, the discussion on whether I'm right or not has already begun, and quite aside from his good counsel of caution, co

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Ross Gardler
You ought to leave it for 72 hours, a half day is not enough time for infra to respond. Ross On 21 December 2012 12:52, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Martijn Dashorst > wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > >> Give me a URL where

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll edit it. > > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html While I agree that the page has a lot to say about putting releases on /dist,

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >> +1, binding, but would some kind soul please clue me in as to why you >> want to be named after a Turkish Cheese? > > LOL, Oltu stone[1] is a type of Amber, just to keep in the topic :P > I found anyway that Oltu is a Turkish town[2] as wel

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Simone Tripodi
> +1, binding, but would some kind soul please clue me in as to why you > want to be named after a Turkish Cheese? LOL, Oltu stone[1] is a type of Amber, just to keep in the topic :P I found anyway that Oltu is a Turkish town[2] as well :) -Simo [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_types_of_

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll edit it. http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org F

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
Give me a URL where this policy is and I'll edit it. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > Well, I don't think it's fine. As long as our release policy states that all > releases must be archived on /dist we should do exactly that. Or change the > policy. > > Greetings, Mar

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Marcel Offermans
Well, I don't think it's fine. As long as our release policy states that all releases must be archived on /dist we should do exactly that. Or change the policy. Greetings, Marcel On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:53 , Benson Margulies wrote: > The Maven PMC pushes no plugin releases nor parent poms to /

Re: [VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
+1, binding, but would some kind soul please clue me in as to why you want to be named after a Turkish Cheese? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > > after PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12 resolution, it's finally time to vote the > graduation resolution and to establish Ap

Re: How to use an apache webpage

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Nick Burch wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Shane Curcuru wrote: >>> >>> I put the DRAFT on because I originally wrote these for my personal >>> Community Over Code site, and I wanted to ensure the style

Re: Do all releases need to go to /dist?

2012-12-21 Thread Benson Margulies
The Maven PMC pushes no plugin releases nor parent poms to /dist. We just leave them on repository.apache.org and of course on Maven central. So, I think this is a pretty safe precedent. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello fellows, > > with Onami we are currently w

[VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution

2012-12-21 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, after PODLINGNAMESEARCH-12 resolution, it's finally time to vote the graduation resolution and to establish Apache Oltu as TLP, after a period at ASF incubator since 2010-06-01 as Apache Amber. The PPMC already positively voted[1] the resolution in the public dev@ ML, collecting two b