Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread sebb
On 20 November 2012 23:22, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM, sebb wrote: >> (Though installing it just for hash creation may be overkill). >> >> Maven generates hashes which are easy to check. >> It's easy to use Ant to generate hashes in a suitable format. > > And this i

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM, sebb wrote: > (Though installing it just for hash creation may be overkill). > > Maven generates hashes which are easy to check. > It's easy to use Ant to generate hashes in a suitable format. And this is the crux of the question -- what IS suitable format? Perso

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread sebb
On 20 November 2012 21:20, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> Hi! >> >> while reviewing Celix RC I came across a peculiar format >> for the SHA/MD5 checksums which I've never seen before: >> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubato

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Hi! > > while reviewing Celix RC I came across a peculiar format > for the SHA/MD5 checksums which I've never seen before: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/celix/celix-0.0.1-incubating/ > > Turns out, this is the

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > What does gpg --verify do? > > http://www.gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.en.html It verifies the GPG sig (as it should). I wasn't able to find (well, by spending 2 minutes searching through the man page on my Linux) an easy way to ask it

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Ted Dunning
What does gpg --verify do? http://www.gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.en.html On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Turns out, this is the output of gpg and it seems that > there's no way to ask gpg to verify it (unlike -c for md5sum lets > say). Worse yet, because of t

Re: Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
Hi all, > while reviewing Celix RC I came across a peculiar format > for the SHA/MD5 checksums which I've never seen before: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/celix/celix-0.0.1-incubating/ There are several other projects who do use the same tools. Cloudstack even list on the

Formats of SHA/MD5 checksums

2012-11-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! while reviewing Celix RC I came across a peculiar format for the SHA/MD5 checksums which I've never seen before: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/celix/celix-0.0.1-incubating/ Turns out, this is the output of gpg and it seems that there's no way to ask gpg to verify it (u

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Arun C Murthy
Could agree more with Chris and Ross. I've seen, first hand, at Hadoop the behaviour of significant portions of the PMC not being present in one of the 3 sub-projects we have (HDFS, YARN, MapReduce) and has led to significant issues in the community and in the PMC. Along with folks like Chris I

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > This is good point of view. > > I think one may also take a user cases and product distribution > perspectives into account. For example, when both projects naturally come > in one binary release, this may be feasible to have them joined. > >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > ...The idea is to have Nuvem become something like Tuscany Cloud Components, > and the active Nuvem PPMC members, which mostly are already Tuscany PMC, > will be joining the Tuscany PMC. > > Does that answer your doubts ?... Yes, thanks! -

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende > > > wrote: > > ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to > allow > > graduation of Apache Nuvem

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Fromt he peanut gallery of someone who has participated in a number of sub-projects over the years (Nutch, Tika, Solr, Hadoop, etc.): I don't think they have a big place at the ASF. The word "project" implies "community". Sub communities == umbrella projects == pain, and suffering. OTOH, sub-"

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Apache Streams as an Incubator Project

2012-11-20 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
The voting period has now closed. The results are as follows: IPMC Member Votes -1: 0 0: 0 +1: 8 Non-binding Votes -1: 0 0: 0 +1: 7 The vote is ***SUCCESSFUL*** Voting Record (* denotes an IPMC Member): Jason Letourneau: +1 * Suresh Marru:+1 * Jukka Zitting: +1 * Ross Gardler:

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > ...Where I start to get worried is when a sub-project takes on a life of > its own and significant portions of the parent PMC are not interested > in the sub-project... I didn't notice this new thread, but my reply in the other one matches t

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...Bertrand, this is a great opportunity to clarify the board's attitude > toward 'subprojects'. Ever since the campaign to dismantle umbrellas, > I've been confused about what structures the board would find > reasonable I don't kno

Re: Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Alexei Fedotov
This is good point of view. I think one may also take a user cases and product distribution perspectives into account. For example, when both projects naturally come in one binary release, this may be feasible to have them joined. -- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov /

Sub-projects - when are they acceptable? (was Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany)

2012-11-20 Thread Ross Gardler
On 20 November 2012 11:18, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende >> wrote: >>> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after >>> discussion between the two projects, we are seekin

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after >> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow >> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Marmotta

2012-11-20 Thread Sergio Fernández
Hi, we were internally discussing that the project would benefit a lot from having a mentor outside of the core Semantic Web community. Then he/she could help us to address those issues of which are not fully aware when you work so close in a topic. For instance, someone from the REST communi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Linda

2012-11-20 Thread Nandana Mihindukulasooriya
Hi, > out of curiosity - how does this relate to or maybe even complement Eclipse > Lyo [1]? For instance is Lyo one of the Enterprise Linked Data scenarios > which you have been mentioning above? > > [1] http://www.eclipse.org/lyo/ > Eclipse Lyo is focused on OSLC (Open Services for Lifecycle C

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Linda

2012-11-20 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Hi Paolo, You are right, the discussion on the list shows we should explain a bit more about the general idea. We will add a paragraph to the proposal and some more links to background material. ;-) Am 19.11.2012 um 00:45 schrieb Paolo Castagna: > On 19/11/12 01:01, Benson Margulies wrote: >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Linda

2012-11-20 Thread Sebastian Schaffert
Hi Daniel, Am 19.11.2012 um 06:53 schrieb dsh: > A few comments in regards to the proposal draft and "linked data" > specifically: > > * maybe consider calling out that you are striving towards implementing the > Linked Data Platform 1.0 W3C draft (at least that's how I understand the > proposal

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany

2012-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after > discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow > graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub-project under Apache Tuscany Can you clarify what this means