Le 7/27/12 1:02 AM, Joe Schaefer a écrit :
I believe Bill is complaining not about the venue,
but the choice of referring to this package as
a "release candidate" instead of simply dropping
the "RC" portion of the package name like other
projects typically do with approved candidates.
Ah, ok. M
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Greets,
>
> The ASF is technology-neutral:
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator
>
> It must be noted that the incubator (just like the board) does not
> perform
> filtering on the basis of technical issues.
Greets,
The ASF is technology-neutral:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#incubator
It must be noted that the incubator (just like the board) does not perform
filtering on the basis of technical issues. This is because the foundation
respects and suggests variety of techn
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> For those interested in helping the documentation side of this you
> might find the task oriented documenation that the Rave project
> developed during incubation useful. This has already been successfully
> adopted by at least two other podli
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> infrastructure@ preferably by filing a jira ticket against INFRA
> related to either a CMS request or an svnpubsub one.
>
Got it-- thanks!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: Josh Wills
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > C
infrastructure@ preferably by filing a jira ticket against INFRA
related to either a CMS request or an svnpubsub one.
- Original Message -
> From: Josh Wills
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:49 PM
> Subject: Creating a project dir under /www/in
I believe Bill is complaining not about the venue,
but the choice of referring to this package as
a "release candidate" instead of simply dropping
the "RC" portion of the package name like other
projects typically do with approved candidates.
- Original Message -
> From: Emmanuel Lécharn
Bill,
the very first incubating project that posted a mail on announce@a.o was
Tuscany, back in 2007...
In the past 5 years, just checking the incubating projects having used
annouance@a.o, I see 140 messages.
18/5/2007 : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuscany SDO Java 1.0-incubating-beta1 released
4/7/2
- Original Message -
> From: Dave Fisher
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Incubator release task force
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>>>
>>> From: Upayavira
>>
On Jul 26, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>
>> From: Upayavira
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Incubator release task force
>>
>> Marvin,
>>
>> While I (think I) can understand your concern (
This seems very odd to me, certainly unusual among Apache projects.
The -dev and -user lists (and even general@incubator) are used to announce that
a release candidate is available and should be tested for readiness to become
an actual release. Some projects use differently-numbered alpha and bet
>
> From: Upayavira
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:37 PM
>Subject: Re: Incubator release task force
>
>Marvin,
>
>While I (think I) can understand your concern (that it should be the
>mentors who are reviewing releases, not yet
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> Marvin,
>
> While I (think I) can understand your concern (that it should be the
> mentors who are reviewing releases, not yet another group), I'd suggest
> that Jukka's approach might be a way to get there.
>
> The incubator release process is,
Marvin,
While I (think I) can understand your concern (that it should be the
mentors who are reviewing releases, not yet another group), I'd suggest
that Jukka's approach might be a way to get there.
The incubator release process is, at the moment, pretty fraught, and I
suspect there are only a h
I think bringing shepherds comments here is good and don't want to change
that (consider this the equivalent of discussing in the board meeting). By
calling for brief comments in the report I'm just hoping to set a reminder
for following shepherds. Consider this roughly equivalent to action items
f
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> My basic point here is to not worry too much about some IPMC people
> not performing reviews, as long as you have ample numbers in the first
> place.
I'm mostly worried about the "ample numbers" being close to zero at
times. It's been gett
Hi Gary...
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
> As someone who is currently attempting to go through their first release,
> I am not really in the category of someone who could be in such a
> taskforce. However, I am very interested in seeing an improvement in the
> release docum
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>...
> We've had a couple of other cases of also other shepherd's missing
> their reviews. I've tried to cover up the best I can by reviewing and
> at least classifying all reports on which no shepherd feedback is
> seen, but it would be easier
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> I made an observation in the board meeting last night that there were
> too many reports not being signed off by mentors. The board
> acknowledged that this is an issue being addressed by the new process
> put in place by Jukka and it was
Great idea.
For those interested in helping the documentation side of this you
might find the task oriented documenation that the Rave project
developed during incubation useful. This has already been successfully
adopted by at least two other podlings.
Of course it is project and build tool spec
Hi,
On Thursday, July 26, 2012, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Yes the reminder script is fine. I'll send
> the reminders out pronto.
Perfect, thanks!
BR,
Jukka Zitting
>
> >
> > From: Jukka Zitting >
> >To: "general@incubator.apache.org " <
> general@incubator.apach
I made an observation in the board meeting last night that there were
too many reports not being signed off by mentors. The board
acknowledged that this is an issue being addressed by the new process
put in place by Jukka and it was not a board issue. So, as an IPMC
member I again request that the
Yes the reminder script is fine. I'll send
the reminders out pronto.
>
> From: Jukka Zitting
>To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:33 PM
>Subject: Re: Preparing for August report
>
>Hi,
>
>Ah, thanks for the correction! I got
I don't think you need another IPMC vote, but just in case...
+1 (I too noted most of the minor points Jukka makes and hope these
will be resolved in the next release)
You guys worked hard on this one - great work.
On 23 July 2012 11:03, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> The Openmeetings community voted
Hi,
Ah, thanks for the correction! I got confused from seeing only the agenda
file for the latter date in svn.
Given that the board meeting is on normal schedule, the podling reports
should also be submitted normally by next Wednesday, August 1st. I'll
update the wiki page accordingly.
What's B
Jukka,
Your dates are incorrect. We intend to have a regular Board meeting on the
15th, and an abbreviated in-person meeting on the 28th.
Cheers,
Greg Stein
Director, ASF
On Jul 26, 2012 12:16 PM, "Jukka Zitting" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The standard podling report deadline of the first Wednesday of a
As someone who is currently attempting to go through their first
release, I am not really in the category of someone who could be in such
a taskforce. However, I am very interested in seeing an improvement in
the release documentation. I would certainly consider looking back over
my recent expe
Hi,
The standard podling report deadline of the first Wednesday of a month
would fall already to next week on August 1st. Since that's a bit
soon, doesn't play too well with the automatic report reminders, and
since the August board meeting will take place only on the 28th
instead of the originall
Ditto.
>
> From: Marvin Humphrey
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:48 AM
>Subject: Re: Incubator release task force
>
>On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> For example, our current release guide [1] is t
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> For example, our current release guide [1] is the result
> of quite a bit of work, but without a clear vision accompanied with a
> process of incremental improvements it's become a mess that few people
> read, let alone understand.
I am int
The Apache Syncope team is pleased to announce the release of Syncope
1.0.0-RC3-incubating from the Apache Incubator.
Apache Syncope is an Open Source system for managing digital identities in
enterprise environments, implemented in JEE technology .
The release will be available within 24h from
We are happy to announce Version 2.0 of Apache OpenMeetings Incubating!
Apache OpenMeetings provides video conferencing, instant messaging, white
board, collaborative document editing and other groupware tools using API
functions of the Red5 Streaming Server for Remoting and Streaming.
This is ou
I like the idea, but I suggest to do it in a different way:
Why not to have volunteers who are already mentoring different podlings
with different sizes of both number of people and the size of code base,
these mentors then volunteer:
1- Update the release process docs
2- Report their their exper
Hi all,
after 72 hours, the vote for Syncope 1.0.0-RC3-incubating [1] *passes* with 3
IPMC + 0 non-IPMC votes.
+1 (IPMC / binding)
* Colm O hEigeartaigh (vote given via syncope-dev mailing list)
* Emmanuel Lécharny (vote given via syncope-dev mailing list)
* Jean-Baptiste Onofré
+1 (non binding)
Hi,
The Incubator ships about half a dozen releases each month on average,
but our release process is notoriously lengthy, fraught with problems,
and badly documented. If this was any other project, we'd have had a
well-oiled release process in place already years ago.
Much of our extra release o
The Apache Flex community is pleased to announce the release of Apache
Flex 4.8.0-incubating!
Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building Flash
Platform-based applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop.
This is the first release under the Incubator of the Apache Soft
+1 (binding)
The release looks good to me (I sent an e-mail just after the review but
it seems that my e-mail has been lost).
Great job guys
Regards
JB
On 07/25/2012 06:01 PM, Fabio Martelli wrote:
Hi IPMC members,
sorry for the disturb but Apache Syncope needs your review. We still need
ju
+1 (binding)
The RC3 looks good (check the content, etc).
Good job guys
Regards
JB
On 07/25/2012 06:01 PM, Fabio Martelli wrote:
Hi IPMC members,
sorry for the disturb but Apache Syncope needs your review. We still need
just one vote.
Please, let us have your feedbacks/votes for 1.0.0-RC3-in
Il giorno 25/lug/2012, alle ore 18.16, Jean-Baptiste Onofré ha scritto:
> Hi Fabio,
>
> I'm taking a look. Thanks for the reminder.
>
> Regards
> JB
Thank you Jean-Baptiste.
We will wait for your review.
Kind regards,
F.
>
> On 07/25/2012 06:01 PM, Fabio Martelli wrote:
>> Hi IPMC members,
Dave, tanks for the tip. I highly respect all Apache members
(regardless of actual "member" status") and their (your, our) time. I
thank all the thread participants who find their time to help the
release despite being busy and those who wrote a private reply as
well.
As for the patience, the Open
Il giorno 25/lug/2012, alle ore 18.16, Jean-Baptiste Onofré ha scritto:
> Hi Fabio,
>
> I'm taking a look. Thanks for the reminder.
Thank you Jean-Baptiste.
We will wait for your review.
Kind regards,
F.
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 07/25/2012 06:01 PM, Fabio Martelli wrote:
>> Hi IPMC members,
>>
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> HI Alexei,
>
> It seems that you have sent various requests in advance of this one through
> channels other than general@. This is not appreciated by busy people who do
> read general@.
>
> Please have patience, the Incubator release process
Thanks a lot in advance Matthew, very appreciated!
-Simo
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
wrote:
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