Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Benson Margulies
I know that I, and I think that Marvin, got a bit distracted by their exact choice of wording. I join him in agreeing with you that the people proposing a podling should be entitled, no, encouraged, to control their list of initial collaborators. Also note the other email in this thread about wanti

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 May 2012 16:56, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >>> However, I am uncomfortable with the exclusivity of language like "The >>> initial >>> committers will be made up exclusively from existing contributors". >> >> Why? Specifically, imagine a

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> However, I am uncomfortable with the exclusivity of language like "The >> initial >> committers will be made up exclusively from existing contributors". > > Why? Specifically, imagine a new project coming into the incubator. > They have a vi

Re: JIRA and communities

2012-05-28 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 28, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:51 AM >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: JIRA and communities >> >> So, what message here should the

Re: Invitation to join Apache Kafka as a committer

2012-05-28 Thread Prashanth Menon
Thanks Kevan, worked like a charm :) On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > Hi Prashanth, > You should be all set… Congrats, by the way! > > --kevan > On May 27, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Prashanth Menon wrote: > > > Hi Alan, Kevan, > > > > Ditto for me - my account has been created and I

RE: JIRA and communities

2012-05-28 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
>-Original Message- >From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:51 AM >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Re: JIRA and communities > >So, what message here should the incubator send a podling, or the >foundation send a TLP? I really don't

Re: Invitation to join Apache Kafka as a committer

2012-05-28 Thread Kevan Miller
Hi Prashanth, You should be all set… Congrats, by the way! --kevan On May 27, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Prashanth Menon wrote: > Hi Alan, Kevan, > > Ditto for me - my account has been created and I can ssh into > people.apache.org but I can't perform a commit. I'm getting the same error > as Joel bel

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 May 2012 13:22, Marvin Humphrey wrote: ... >> At a minimum, I think it would be wise for the incubator documentation >> to tell new projects to announce a policy as part of their proposal, >> so that others do not make the same mistake. That announcement could >> be anything from "The init

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi Josh, On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Josh Wills wrote: > I think that not making an explicit policy announcement was a mistake on our > part, because the interpretation was ambiguous and that led directly to an > ugly start for the project. Had you stated such a policy, you would be at odds

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On May 27, 2012 1:55 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >> OK, then how about a place for people to sign up for the podling dev list >> in advance? > > Sure, but to what end? To welcome people on board, rather than exclude them with explicit lan

Re: Invitation to join Apache Kafka as a committer

2012-05-28 Thread Prashanth Menon
Hi Alan, Kevan, Ditto for me - my account has been created and I can ssh into people.apache.org but I can't perform a commit. I'm getting the same error as Joel below. Can the appropriate permissions be added to my account as well? Username: prashanthmenon Thanks!!! Prashanth On Thu, May 24, 2

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-28 Thread Steve Loughran
On 27 May 2012 10:40, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Arvind Prabhakar > wrote: > > > > > > I don't think this is a problem because while most Cloudera committers > have > > the luxury of working on the project during regular working hours, others > > do that duri

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-28 Thread Steve Loughran
On 27 May 2012 01:15, Ralph Goers wrote: > What would happen if all the Cloudera people were to suddenly vanish from > the project (this could easily happen if Cloudera were purchased by a > larger company who had different goals). As it stands today I don't > believe the project would survive v

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-28 Thread Steve Loughran
On 27 May 2012 00:43, Jukka Zitting wrote: > > >arvind - 116 commits - Cloudera >prasadm - 22 commits - Cloudera >brock - 16 commits - Cloudera >esammer - 4 commits - Cloudera >jarcec - 1 commit - AVG Technologies >juhanic - 1 commit - CyberAgent > > The only

Re: JIRA scalability issues

2012-05-28 Thread Steve Loughran
On 26 May 2012 21:50, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Steve Loughran > wrote: > > It is becoming a bit of a SPOF, isn't it? > > What has changed about our JIRA instance is both its size and its > increasing > integration into the workflows of some projects. It always

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 May 2012 09:30, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Josh Wills wrote: >> ...At a minimum, I think it would be wise for the incubator documentation >> to tell new projects to announce a policy as part of their proposal, >> so that others do not make the same mistak

Re: Open enrollment

2012-05-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Josh Wills wrote: > ...At a minimum, I think it would be wise for the incubator documentation > to tell new projects to announce a policy as part of their proposal, > so that others do not make the same mistake. That announcement could > be anything from "The init

Re: Flume Graduation (was Re: June reports in two weeks)

2012-05-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > ...2. Regarding doing away with the difference between PPMC and committers, I > am told that other projects do this during graduation. I.e., they promote > all existing committers to PMC status during graduation... Not sure if that's a g